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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... #178252 07/24/08 01:45 PM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania The Pook OP old hand OP The Pook old hand Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania "presenteeism" I heard this used on the news tonight in a report about research into the cost to society of people turning up at work when they are ill and should be at home in bed. It's the opposite (obviously) of absenteeism. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... The Pook #178253 07/24/08 02:30 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont clunky coinage. cloinage. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... Buffalo Shrdlu #178254 07/24/08 02:50 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass not all that neo; Quinion, for example, presenteed this in 1996. -joe (but into the queue it goes) friday Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... The Pook #178258 07/24/08 07:41 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague  Originally Posted By: The Pook "presenteeism" It's the opposite (obviously) of absenteeism. Absentmindeeism?  Quote: cloinage Heh Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... tsuwm #178266 07/26/08 01:04 AM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania The Pook OP old hand OP The Pook old hand Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania  Originally Posted By: tsuwm not all that neo; Quinion, for example, presenteed this in 1996. chuckle. droll, very droll. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... The Pook #178267 07/26/08 01:32 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 And what's to hate? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... Faldage #178291 07/26/08 05:27 PM Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 Hydra addict Hydra addict Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 I saw, "inspirator" for "inspiring person" today. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... Faldage #178292 07/26/08 05:28 PM Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 Hydra addict Hydra addict Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631  Originally Posted By: Faldage And what's to hate? This, IMO, is the problem with hardcore descriptivism. If anything goes, anything goes. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Another neo-logism you'll love to hate... Hydra #178294 07/26/08 06:16 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass  Originally Posted By: Hydra This, IMO, is the problem with hardcore descriptivism. If anything goes, anything goes. but, as any good sport will tell you, it is what it is. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: straw people Hydra #178300 07/26/08 06:55 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh the problem with hardcore descriptivism. If anything goes, anything goes. Oh, sigh. John McIntyre (director of the copy desk at The Sun, a past president of the American Copy Editors Society, and an adjunct instructor in journalism at Loyola College in Maryland) has this to say about that: "It is wholesome for him to point out that the caricature of the descriptivist viewpoint — that anything a native speaker of English says or writes is by definition legitimate — is a straw man. No serious linguist thinks that." (link). And lest you think that McIntyre is some closet descriptivist, he does point out the flip-side: "Unfortunately, in describing the “militant grammarians” such as David Foster Wallace, the author of a well-reasoned critique of the philosophical underpinnings of descriptivism, Mr. Greene presents the other straw man, the prescriptivist as the blind follower of nonsensical rules about not splitting infinitives and not ending sentences with prepositions. " Descriptivist posit that the only way to determine what is grammatical and what is not is by describing how people actually use the language. This is as far from anything goes as all get out. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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