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(you're not an exuberant nitpicker, are you? ; )
I think it came out as blend of revue and review and some many mistakes I make over and over again. Of course he is, otherwise he wouldn't be here! 
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I nosed around and found this: http://www.kolel.org/pages/5767/bereshit.html which I found to be very interesting; I think you'll enjoy it, Bran. I learned about a new fruit (etrog), among other things. As it says, the scripture does not name the fruit at all. :0)
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> etrog
now that's interesting.
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We do thrive on crisp imagery, and an apple before, during, and after a bite is easy to imagine. I have no idea whether that has had anything to do with the popular adoption of the apple as the forbidden fruit.
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At one time I had the notion that it became the apple becauase the OE word ęppel was a generic word for any kind of fruit. I also have a little note stuck to that entry in my Junk Drawer Memory® that says that's not correct. Not the bit about ęppel being the word for any kind of fruit, but the bit about that being the reason for the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil being associated with the apple. Details are a little hazy but Nuncle z might shed some light on it.
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>The bit about leaf size is also irrelevantNothing is relevant as to the point of the story. I only still wished this part could be found by someone (Zmj?), because it seems such a total idiocy. "The fig leaf comes from a translation error; in Hebrew bananas are called ' figs of Eve'." I would like to know if that is based on any serious fact. Lost in space.... Nice page: the etrog rituals. I looked for more images: etrog images
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I dunno; it seems odd that the onliest ghit for "figs of Eve" is right here in this very thread.
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Maybe the Dutch reviewer ;- ) invented the whole thing to make the intro of her article more intriguing. I've got time now to do some searching.
Definitely the dummest thing I've done and I think a dead end street. From what I tried on a translation page with pronunciation, a banana in Hebrew is just a banana.
בננה
banana בָּנָנָה
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Details are a little hazy ...
Of the two PIE roots *HebVl- and *meHlo-, the former is represented in 5 or maybe 6 branches (Celtic, Baltic, Slavic, Germanic, Italic/Oscan). The latter in, at least, Italic/Latin and Hellenic and just maybe in Hittite, where there's a bit of a mystery as to whether it means grapes, apples, or generically fruit. In all the other branches it seems to mean apple and somewhat generically fruit. Folk taxonomies are never exact, and as new species are discovered or introduced, old names get reused in interesting ways: e.g., apples of Hesperides are sometimes identified as oranges. Folktales abound involving apples, e.g., the apple of discord that starts the Trojan War.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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comparing apples and oranges again, jheem?
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