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You gotta be careful of dead bees... You're all right, ( link). But can a dead jeopard change its spots? Or transitionize them even?
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OK, Nuncle. How long has -ize (or even that upstart, -ise) been productive in forming verbs from other parts of speech?
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How long has -ize (or even that upstart, -ise) been productive in forming verbs from other parts of speech?I'm not sure, but, according to MWDEU ( link). it started to annoy people in 1591 ( link). [Thomas Nashe] was none too politely tweaking the noses of his "reprehenders, whom he was apparently pleased to have nettled with his verb coinages ending in -ize. Ever since, it has been possible to raise hackles with newly coined verbs that end in this suffix." Seems to me younger than the verbed noun route.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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OK, Nuncle. How long has -ize (or even that upstart, -ise) British people believe it is -ize that is the American upstart, -ise being the British original. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant, since they will continue to believe it anyway! Americans are the greatest corrupters of the Queen's English you know!
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>Why do people hate verbing nouns so much?
Because verbing wierds language.;-)
J
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>Why do people hate verbing nouns so much?
Because verbing wierds language.;-)
J Weird is one of the weirdest words in the language I reckon. The longer you look at it the weirder it gets. Ironic statement really, because weird comes from the OE wyrd meaning 'destiny' or 'fate' - so to weird language could mean to destine it. Verbing shapes new words and therefore helps the language on to its new destiny. 
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you're weirding me out...
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Americans are the greatest corrupters of the Queen's English you know! We won; we have no queen; I will corruptize all I want...
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Americans are the greatest corrupters of the Queen's English you know! We won; we have no queen; I will corruptize all I want... We do have a Queen but no English, though we do the same thing; verbing and nouning is sort of a fashion. All things come to pass. (like f.i. bulldozeren)
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The one that really bothers me is the current use of the verb to grow. e.g. a plant grows - that's fine; a business grows - that's fine; but I am going to grow this business - that sounds terrible to my ears.
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