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In fact, the onomatopeic way of writing a sneeze is
ecci' That explains something that has bothered me for a while! It is now obvious to me that Jacob Epstein wished to call one of his sculptures simply, "Man" but, in the dust filled atmosphere of his studio, when he unveiled the masterpiece to awe-filled journalists, he actually said "Ecci!! - homo." Most unusually,  the journalists got it all wrong, and thought he had used the Latin for "Behold! The Man!" 
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can someone give me a new, clear explanation as to why the fusion of these three syllables produces a fission of logical pronunciation? Does this word violate the learned vowel/consonant relationships of English?
G-r-o-a-n-n-n! C'mere a minute, sweet Geoff--I want to
violate U! 238 times.
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Just so long as he doesn't become depleted!!
Then none of us dare go near him.
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Again, in my brother's linguistics book, they seemed to indicate that the British pronunciation of words like "nude" and "sue" have the "y" sound in there, like "nyude" and "syue". The book also indicated that the North American pronunciation is likely to be "nood" and "soo". Any Brits care to confirm/deny that? It helps to hear it from the horse's...keyboard(?)... 
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In English it's with a short i. The Italiano version described by emanuela is what we would call a long E. The eye-talian version is normally considered substandard, at least here in US'n land.
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The lovely thing about Italian is that once you know the rules, you can't help but pronounce a word correctly, with the possible exception of the accentuation of the syllables. I have a huge list of hated mispronunciations accumulating (of course I can only think of three right now). My "favourite" bastardizations of Italian words: bruschetta - "broo-shetta", should be "broo-sketta" espresso - "ekspresso", should be "espresso" (Where's the X?) Ross Rebagliati - "reb-lee-ati" should be "Re-bal-yati" (as close as I can spell it - there is no "gli" sound in English) (That's the Canadian snowboarder from the Nagano olympics who got in trouble for having pot in his system.) Argh! Is all I can say... 
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Not so new and maybe not so clear, but.
M-W on line lists 22 words ending in clear, all of them derived from either clear itself or nuclear. It lists 105 words ending in cular, most, if not all, of them of a scientific nature. The preponderance of words ending in cular overwhelms poor little nuclear which is forced to submit to the will of the majority and convert.
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Why or why, pray tell, do announcers who should know better (that is hosts of classical music programs) persist in pronouncing Mozart as Mote-zart instead of Mo-zart?
Or have I been saying it improperly for lo these many years? (Awaiting enlightenment from our German friends emoticon)
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But...as a physicist...I must struggle to keep the "proper" pronunciation alive...
It comes from "nucleus". It would mean "of the nucleus". Thus "nuclear". Just like "stellar" = "of the stars" (where stellaris is star in Latin).
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in pronouncing Mozart as Mote-zart instead of Mo-zart?
I, also, used the same pronunciation that you favour, wow, for many, many years. My Afrikaans-speaking friend at Oxford slapped my wrist (literally, not metaphorically!) every time I did so, and insisted it was Mo -tzart. Indeed, when I started to learn German (also at Oxford), I was taught that the letter "z" was pronounced "tz."
So - I now call Wolfgang, the beloved of God, "Mo-tzart" and I guess shall do so for the rest of my natural.
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