How would you spell it phonetically without using an r then?
I would have to hear the speaker say the two phrases, before attempting to transcribe them accurately. I was just saying that some non-rhotic varieties of English use an r in phonic spellings to indicate difference in vocalic quality, and not that there is anythingr-colored about the vowel. On the other hand, some non-rhotic varieties of English exhibit a phenomenon called intrusive-r, where an r intrudes in a word, where it is not phonologically or etymologically motivated: e.g., pronouncing barn /bɑːn/, but idea /ʔəjdiːɹ/ in some varieties of NE US English.
Thanks for saying what I couldn't be bothered to retrieve from the other thread and quote again. I believe someone (probably you) mentioned Rudyard Kipling's transliterations of some Hindi or Urdu words having non-rhotic spellings that mislead rhotic speakers. In these kinds of words 'ar' for example indicates a long 'a' sound not a voiced 'r' and would be spelt 'ah' or similar had he been an American.
I just realised actually that the 'i' in my 'howzit garn' or 'airzit garn' is actually more properly a schwa. But there is definitely no 'r' sound.
