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#175013 03/24/08 01:40 PM
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from schnorren to schnurren to:

to purr, hum, or whir

purr: 1601, of imitative origin.

hum:.1374, hommen "make a murmuring sound to cover embarrassment," later hummen "to buzz, drone" (c.1420), probably of imitative origin. Sense of "sing with closed lips" is first attested c.1485; that of "be busy and active" is 1884, perhaps on analogy of a beehive. Humming-bird (1637) so called from sound made by the rapid vibration of its wings.
"There is a curious bird to see to, called a humming bird, no bigger then a great Beetle." [Thomas Morton, "New English Canaan," 1637]

whir: 1400, Scottish, "fling, hurl," probably from O.N. hvirfla, freq. of hverfa "to turn" (see wharf). Cf. Dan. hvirvle, Du. wervelen, Ger. wirbeln "to whirl."

schnurren:
27 defs. of 'schnurren'

27 defs to cats' purring
(German cats)

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Odd, how close whir and whirl are.

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 Originally Posted By: Jackie
Odd, how close whir and whirl are.


what the l?


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You invented the word but actually you are the postergeist!

[All three words defining 'schnurren' express a state of contentment. I can see someone purring or humming with contentment, basking in someones generosity, but whir? Or even wirl? Makes me think of whirling dervishes. Or washing machines].

Ik wervel in uw goedertierenheid. Nah!

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 Originally Posted By: BranShea
You invented the word but actually you are the postergeist!


erm, not by my thought of the word.


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It's a two definition word:

1)a person who starts a topic and subsequently abandons it.
2)a poster (Jackie!)who jumps through the maze of threads with tiny jesty remarks.

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not by my thought of the word

The word in question is not even a week out of eta's mind's matrix and already its meaning is changing.

ἐξίσταται γὰρ πάντ' ἀπ' ἀλλήλων δίχα [Euripides, Eumenides, Tailor]


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
not by my thought of the word

The word in question is not even a week out of eta's mind's matrix and already its meaning is changing.

ἐξίσταται γὰρ πάντ' ἀπ' ἀλλήλων δίχα [Euripides, Eumenides, Tailor]


Huh? "Be amazed that all turn against one another," ...or something like that?

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"For all things change, making way for each other" (link).


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
[Euripides, Eumenides, Tailor]


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Lettuce envision whirled peas.


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
not by my thought of the word

The word in question is not even a week out of eta's mind's matrix and already its meaning is changing.

ἐξίσταται γὰρ πάντ' ἀπ' ἀλλήλων δίχα [Euripides, Eumenides, Tailor]

Oh, no. No, not changing, a meaning added. The first meaning stands. But it is ,woops!(forgot this multi-interpretable thing) World Peas??? World Peace!

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not changing

To me a change can include bifurcation into polysemy.


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
"For all things change, making way for each other" (link).


...yeah, well, lol, my Greek is a little rusty and a few hundred years out of phase with the quote - I studied Koine not Classical. Best I could do off the top of my head. I mistook the main verb for Koine εξίστημι, which I presume is the same word, from εξ- plus ίστημι 'to stand', but the meaning of which had changed to "be amazed" in Koine. A good illustration of the quote itself! I don't think Koine uses the word to mean change. It would use μεταβάλλω, μεταλλάσσω or μετατίθημι or similar I think.

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It had the meaning of amaze in Classical Greek, too, (link). It's interesting that the same construction in Latin exsisto (showing the same archaic reduplication as the Greek form) means rather 'to come, appear; exist' but not 'to amaze'.


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
not changing

To me a change can include bifurcation into polysemy.

Understood, agreed , but those words you use keep amazing me.
And that link: a maze!

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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd


It had the meaning of amaze in Classical Greek, too, (link). It's interesting that the same construction in Latin exsisto (showing the same archaic reduplication as the Greek form) means rather 'to come, appear; exist' but not 'to amaze'.


Interesting. It seems to have come from the idea of being 'displaced' - taken out of oneself as it were - a similar concept to several English idioms such as 'being beside yourself' (with grief, amazement, etc) or being 'out of your mind.'

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Onomatopoeia still delivers a buzz after all these years.

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