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That is a fantastic picture, Maven. How do you tell males from females, by the color? Yes, the females tend to be drab shades of brown, while the males are little feathery gems, greens and reds depending on species. The females are also quiet, whilst the males chide and rant constantly. Here are three shots of males, two different species native to the area. Based on behavir, I think the female was the mate of the unidentified male.   Calliopes  Possibly an Anna's--I haven't gotten a good id for this one. the good photographers secret. Indeed! I love the digital format, simply because it does allow me to take multiple shots, knowing that many won't ever be worth sharing.
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Ooo, ooo! I have hummingbird pics.... hold on a sec.. :0)
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Okay, here we go...  This is one of the few boy hummers I have captured on "film". They took three years or so to show up. The girls came right away (smart, of course...)  This is a boy, although you can't tell, but I just like it for it's overall artistic value, not as a great hummer pic. It was interesting lighting.  This is one of the (smart) girls. Just sittin' pretty...  Funny looking hummer... LOL! Actually, a buzzer..; cool, huh? All pics taken "a mano", no tripod, Kodak 6490, on my deck, some through a window or door. Maven: That bottom one is most likely a ruby-throated. She looks just like all my girls, and they're the only species we get here!
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If anyone has the interest, a link to my blog of my UK trip, summer 2005, with my church choir... http://twosleepy.blogspot.com It contains some of my best photographic work.
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Nope, no rubies in this area. Too low in elevation, I guess.
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Of course Ahem is a pretty mysterious comment , but if you might mean some hummingbirds come larger than life size, I can only think of the fact that everything in the Americas is double sized.  I remember some giant cinnamon buns. 
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Jackie gets all funny-like when she sees the abbreviation UK and it might not mean University of Kentucky.
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LOL! Maybe I went to Kentucky...
And let me tell you, BranShea, cinnamon or not, the USA has the biggest buns on the planet.... he he he
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Ever bin on planet Biggerbun?
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Ever bin on planet Biggerbun? We LIVE on planet Biggerbun, silly!!! LOLOLOL!
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Ah, the famous case of the woman who mistook a continent for a planet. 
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Well, you know us Americans: we think we ARE the planet... ;0)
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 I know some good Americans who think.
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Well, what can you expect from a country that calls their domestic competition in a sport that is played by very few other countries the "World Series"?
(...and yes I do know why it's really called that, I'm just being facetious)
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Ooh, I don't know, why is it called that?
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Baseball is played in many other countries, and is also the national sport of the following nations (not, however, included in the World Series): Cuba, Republica Dominicana, Nicaragua, Panama, Puerto Rico, Taiwan and Venezuela. It is also the most popular sport in Japan. The world loves the sport, but the World Series only loves North America! So Zed, the answer lies in the early days of the sport, which is, indeed, American, and therefore the "world championship series" consisted of American teams, because they were the only ones around! It got shortened to "world series" later. :0)
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Baseball is played in many other countries, and is also the national sport of the following nations (not, however, included in the World Series): Cuba, Republica Dominicana, Nicaragua, Panama, Puerto Rico, Taiwan and Venezuela. It is also the most popular sport in Japan. The world loves the sport, but the World Series only loves North America! So Zed, the answer lies in the early days of the sport, which is, indeed, American, and therefore the "world championship series" consisted of American teams, because they were the only ones around! It got shortened to "world series" later. :0) Isn't it called the World Series because it was played at the World Stadium? I know it is the favourite sport of Japan. But it still remains true that very few countries play it much or watch it, compared to other truly world sports like football, basketball or even motor racing. The world does not love the sport by any meaningful definition of the word 'world'. Measured by the number of countries that play it or have it as their number one game, the most popular is of course football (soccer). However, to restore some bragging rights to the good ole US of A, the second most widespread sport (by number of countries) would almost certainly be be an American sport, namely basketball. Now, if we are talking about spectating rather than participating, the most popular by a long way would still be soccer. But the next most popular (by population, not by number of countries playing it) would be cricket (believe it or not)! Over 3 billion people watch cricket, since it is the most popular sport of the Indian subcontinent (where half the world's population live) plus the former British Commonwealth countries (with the exception of Canada where ice hockey reigns supreme!). Baseball a World game? Well, maybe, but it wouldn't be in the top ten I'd bet, by most ways of measuring it.
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Baseball a World game? Well, maybe, but it wouldn't be in the top ten I'd bet, by most ways of measuring it. I found this site: http://ezinearticles.com/?Most-Popular-Sports-Around-The-World&id=551180 which has some interesting surprises. The rankings are based on participants + watchers, which seems fair. Baseball comes out around 7th, tied with a bunch. What do you think?
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boy, howdy! you have to actually *read that article to find the rankings!
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And many sources quote Canada as basketball's country of origin. Shortening World Championship Series to World Series doesn't really answer the why world if there was still only one country involved but World Stadium might.
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The World Serious - joe (and here I thought that was my coinage) friday
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Sounds reasonable, though of course there are many such sites with conflicting lists. Surprises me that Basketball doesn't rank higher, though I guess when you think about it, at the very most only 15,000 at a time can watch a basketball match, and that would be in the top stadiums alone, so it's limited by the nature of the venue in terms of spectacting. If you take TV audiences relatively more into account I'm sure it would be higher. Some sports like ping pong are only up there because they are played in the world's most populous country. Field Hockey is one I'd forgotten about. North Americans may be surprised to know that it outranks baseball, but most of the rest of the English speaking world and most of non-English speaking Europe and most of Asia play it avidly. Here in Australia "hockey" means field hockey and the sub-zero version is something exotic to us. We're not so "hot" on what we call "ice hockey".
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I don't believe it was ever played in the World Stadium (wherever that might be or have been). In the early days of the sport there weren't really any stadiums. It's also not called the World Series because it was sponsored by the New York World newspaper, because it wasn't.
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you agree with wikipedia, Faldo.
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This thread may win the championship for most twisted.
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I don't believe it was ever played in the World Stadium (wherever that might be or have been). In the early days of the sport there weren't really any stadiums. It's also not called the World Series because it was sponsored by the New York World newspaper, because it wasn't. I do believe you may be right. World Series History So Americans really did call it the World Series because they thought the known World ended at Boston. Whaddya know! Don't remember where I heard the story about the World Stadium, guess it's spurious.
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Yes, what was the leading idea to begin with? Hmm..
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boy, howdy! you have to actually *read that article to find the rankings!
-joe (they're not making lists like they used to) friday Sorry! Didn't know reading was in such disfavor in these parts... ;0)
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you agree with wikipedia, Faldo.
-joe (not that I do, unnerstan) friday Correction: Wikipedia agrees with me. The sources of my belief are more rooted in SABR.
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I was (politely) avoiding saying (yet again) that I'd been pipped (see World Serious link in my original), but you fell into my (clever) trap.
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I was (politely) avoiding saying (yet again) that I'd been pipped (see World Serious link in my original), but you fell into my (clever) trap.
-joe () friday A) I don't always have time to go off to links. I thought yours was a link to the contention that the phrase "World Serious", despite its being used by Pogo, was coined by Damon Runyon. 2) "Pipped"? Do you mean "mantled"?
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2) "Pipped"? Do you mean "mantled"?
yep; what *was I thinking?
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2) "Pipped"? Do you mean "mantled"?
yep; what *was I thinking? huh? must be Americanese, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. We use the idiom "pipped at the post" (from horse racing) to mean beaten (to or at something) at the last second. Is that what you meant? Is "mantled" a baseball term? As in Mickey Mantle or something?
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2) "Pipped"? Do you mean "mantled"?
yep; what *was I thinking? huh? must be Americanese, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Sorry Pook, but I am definitely American, and I have no idea what they're talking about, either! :0}
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it's forumese. being mantled relates to posting something and then being totally ignored by subsequent posts, often saying much the same thing, as though you were cloaked in a shroud of invisibility. and yes, this is sometimes even further obfuscated and referred to as being Mickey'd.
the other is responding to a post with a really apt and/or witty reply only to discover that (often whilst you were actually composing) someone else pipped you by posting much the same reply -- yes, pipped at the post; exactly!
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And many sources quote Canada as basketball's country of origin. I'm a big hoops fan, and I've never heard this before. All the sources I've ever seen recount that the rules of basketball (I've seen a copy of Dr Naismith's original rules; pretty cool!) were first written, and the game first played, at a YMCA school in Springfield, Massachusetts. The Canadian connection is that James Naismith was born in Canada. The High Holy Days are almost here! W00T!
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being mantled relates to posting something and then being totally ignored by subsequent posts Is 'Mantled' allegorical for being put on the shelf? or does it have some obscure reference to Mickey Mantle?
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being mantled relates to posting something and then being totally ignored by subsequent posts Is 'Mantled' allegorical for being put on the shelf? or does it have some obscure reference to Mickey Mantle? so, in the event, I wasn't pipped, but I sure have been Mantled!! - joe (mickey) friday
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Olly, and all other newbumfuzzledcomers: mantled comes from the term 'wearing a cloak (or mantle!) of invisibility' (from some work of fiction, no doubt). I don't know why it became mantled instead of cloaked.
Pipped was a new one on me.
Yes, tsuwm, I know I mantled you, but.
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