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I've been trying to recall how we call in in French; trying to recall how I would have brought it up while speaking to somebody.
Remembering conversations with my assistant, we definitely said trois petits points. The colon is deux petits points and the semi-colon is point virgule. Though I don't know if that is the official term for them.
It's like the @ sign. People will always say "A commercial" instead of "arobas".
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what the hill the second thought 's got to do with the subject?
I was thoughtifying about Céline's titre, not ses trois points. Me comprenez vous?
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Ouah ! Trois petits pois.
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I've often wondered. Is the colloquial ouais only Parisian for 'yeah' (as I'd always rather naïvely assumed) or does it span the francophone world?
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You'll see "ouais" written in books and people recognize it to mean yeah or yup, but in the spoken language of French Québec, yeah is said in a different way.
I racking my brain as to how I can possibly write this so you'll understand the sound.
O.k., think of the word "wine"
The sound the WI makes finished with a barely perceptible exhaled middle-of-the-mouth vowel sound.
No help here, eh?
Oh, and people also say ouaip
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think of the word "wine"
The sound the WI makes finished with a barely perceptible exhaled middle-of-the-mouth vowel sound.
Hmm, assuming you're talking about how an anglophone pronounces wine, the vowel is really a diphthong: /'wajn/. I guess the vowel is a little like the i in tin, i.e., /'tɪn/. Is the sound of the Quebecker yep, like the wi in wit? Or something else? Is there a standard French word that this vowel sound occurs in?
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think of the word "wine"
The sound the WI makes finished with a barely perceptible exhaled middle-of-the-mouth vowel sound. Now imagine that sound pronounced by a duck... 
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A lady I know (whose accent even I could tell was, um, less than perfect) said that when she was in Paris she heard it as oo-eye.
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Ahh, but in Paree she is different, no. To sound Parisienne you must pucker your lips as if waiting for a kiss while you talk. To sound Parisien you only pucker the lower lip but you have to raise one eyebrow at the same time.  A lady I know (whose accent even I could tell was, um, less than perfect) said that when she was in Paris she heard it as oo-eye. Perhaps she heard people spee king vay ree su low lee. On the other hand i speak French with a strong Italian accent so you might want to add a few grains of salt to the above.
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i speak French with a strong Italian accent
Moi? Je parle le français comme un vache espagnole.
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Moo. (I don't know any Spanish-speaking cows.)
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Ah, the cows in Spain are masculain as the Rain in Spain stays mainly in the plane?
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Actually it only rains on the plane when people try to sneak a cigarette in the on board washroom. 
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 Ah la vache! that will teach me not to nitpick on others. Idiomatics with vache Peace offer 
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An anecdote on the phrase, The Rain in Spain.
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WOW what a cool website, Branny! THANK you! I didn't know there was an actual expression about a Spanish cow; I wonder they didn't make it an English cow...
zmjezhd, I was going to put a question about your link, but (thank goodness) realized it was dumb beyond imagining.
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>dumb beyond imagining related to its wikiness, no doubt. - joe (wiki-waki) friday
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Er--I'm not sure what wikiness is (speaking of dumb); I just realized the answer was staring me in the face and I hadn't seen it! [waki]
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zmjezhd's link was to wikipedia..
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Wikiness is susceptibility to corruption
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Wikis, like languages, are resilient, ( link).
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Resilient is a real beautiful word. If I can't be wabi-sabi or puissant rich I'm going to be resilient for the rest of my life.
I already liked that word before I knew what it meant. The sound is perfect.
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Pertinent to a supposed singular difference between La-La Land and the Midwest. Back there apparently nobody objects when the dealer drills two holes in the trunk of your new car in order to affix his logo; the very idea of which is said to horrify us down here--in other climes labeled as crazies What a bizarre phenomenon! They actually DO that in the US of A? Here is Australia the most they do is affix decal stickers on the back window or install an easily removed plastic registration plate surround with the dealer name on it. Screwing or bolting logos on to the vehicle body is unheard of.
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i speak French with a strong Italian accent
Moi? Je parle le français comme un vache espagnole. HA! Are you sure you aren't French Québeker? That is such a common expression when talking about somebody who can't really speak French all that well. ========================================= It's had to describe sounds, eh. The way I pronounce the I in wine is not the same as the I in wit. Ooo, I know... have you seen the movie Cool Runnings when the guys start counting in German before jump-running into the luge, well the way they pronounce the beginning of the number "one" in German is the sound I meant (before you pronounce the "n" in "ein")
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Here is Australia the most they do is affix decal stickers on the back window or install an easily removed plastic registration plate surround with the dealer name on it. Screwing or bolting logos on to the vehicle body is unheard of. Same here in nzild mate.
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Are you sure you aren't French Québeker?Manybe in another life. The first time I heard somebody trying to do a francophone Quebecker was Olivier in The 42nd Parallel. (Lord Larry also later did one of the worse American accents I've ever heard a British actor do as General Douglas MacArthur in Inchon.) The diphthong in standard English in the word wine is /aɪ/ (see the IPA chart for sounds of various brands of English, link). The vowel in (standard) French vin is an /ɛ/ ( link).
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I couldn't resist, Brannie. I am afflicted with sudden mental (occasionally psycho) images that make me giggle. Great link, by the way. I wonder if Ah la vache! is as strong as Damn! or if it is more like the English Rats!?
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That's a shared affliction. You had a giggle, I had a laugh. And yes, it is strong: Ah la vache! : Wow!/Gosh!/Damn!/Hell! But it can be used both ways: in admiration or rejection. Just like in English, no?
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This thread has gotten too long... while it's interesting (obviously) could we start a Part Two?
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This thread has gotten too long... while it's interesting (obviously) could we start a Part Two? eh? page 2? not so long if the "Ignore" function is used....
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>too long
do we even know if AWADtalk 2.0 has the infamous > 99 problem?
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I've growm accustomed to this thread , accustomed to its look, accustomed to its face.
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Well--when I first came on here today, clicking on the title in the category list took me to the first post I hadn't read yet. I tried it again as an experiment, and was taken to the top of page two-- which is better than page one! (Egad--the second time I did that it did take me to page one; maybe I inadvertantly clicked on 2, the preceding time.)
As to how many posts per page, I couldn't find it for the life of me*, but the list shows 112 posts in all, and from the top of page two down to Branshea's I've growm accustomed to this thread , accustomed to its look, accustomed to its face. there were 14 posts, so I reckon the page limit must be 98 posts, though I have my Preferences set to 99.
*If you want to know where all I looked, PM me.
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but, alls you have to remember is to click in Column one when you have new posts (to go to the new), and to click in the Posted column thereafter (to go the the last).
-joe (not rocketology) friday
(it's only this convoluted because if you always click in the Posted column the New flags don't always get cleared.)
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click in the Posted column thereafter (to go the the last). Really? Holy cow, I had to open another window to even see what you were talking about; it has never occurred to me to click way over there. Thanks!
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