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If the purpose is to enable communication, does this fail?

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eschew obfuscation!


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Assuming that's the only purpose of language, you'll have to ask, "Communication with whom?"

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Sheesh.

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Stay tuned for today's episode of "Where Are They Now?" featuring the technobabble writers from Star Trek.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Assuming that's the only purpose of language,
Is it?

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All this readily occurs as an atomic effort within a deregulated chaotic macro environment,



I thought the author was being quite creative. Surely someone was taking the mickey?

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Interesting thought, olly; so I took another look at the piece. The writing that made me put sheesh is purported to be by Jeltes Consulting, whoever they are.
I know that there are a lot of fields that have their own jargon; but it sounded to me like this company created their own--that is, what I did read did not seem geared to the architecture world but could be used for most of the companies they consult for. Maybe. Dunno, couldn't bring myself to read more than a couple of paragraphs.

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Symbiotic Ephemeralization? Is that an upgrade from parasitic transience?

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Symbiotic Ephemeralization, in the context of this submission, refers to a series of autonomous communities-of-practice that though nodal collaboration channels produce a unique ephemeralization hypercycle.


Like the writer of this tract, words fail me.

As Ernest Hemingway said, "The most essential gift for a good writer is a built-in, shock-proof shit detector."

Amen to that!

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Originally Posted By: Hydra
Like the writer of this tract, words fail me.


heh


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I don't understamd it therefore it doesn't mean anything. Is that what y'all are saying?

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
I don't understamd it therefore it doesn't mean anything. Is that what y'all are saying?


that's not what I'm saying. but the writing does seem to be unnecessarily wordy and jargon-filled.


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I don't understamd it therefore it doesn't mean anything. Is that what y'all are saying? No. Not that I claim to understand exactly what they mean, by, say, Symbiotic Ephemeralization. For me, this particular ex. is like Shakespeare: I comprehend the individual words but they don't make sense to me together. And, while I pretty much understand Proposing a scaleable innovation methodology with substantially linear IP generation and amplification characteristics to replace outmoded lever-based mechanisms. , this sentence is just too much work to take in.

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2. ephemera : Printed matter of passing interest.

Yes Jackie. And after all that work most likely you will get
something like this ephemera thing.

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Does anybody remember, oh, maybe around the turn of the millennium, a couple of guys who published a sesquipedalian-laden article in a respected peer-reviewed journal -- it turned out to be a joke?

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Let me see, now which millennium would that be...
[going off in search of caffeine e]

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I'm not saying the article means anything; I'm just saying that it may well mean something to the intended audience. You can diss jargon but often it is the best way to communicate with others who know the jargon while still being totally incomprehensible to outsiders. It doens't even have to be written with the intention of being incomprehensible to outsiders, it just works out that way.

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True; and I see the connection with your first post in this thread. I've written plenty of jargon-y stuff myself.

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Originally Posted By: latishya
Re: What is the purpose of language?

If the purpose is to enable communication...


The purpose of language is different for males and females. Or at least for husbands and wives. The primary purpose for males is to communicate information (or disinformation!). The primary purpose for females is to express relationship.

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The primary purpose for females is to express relationship. What?! Yer gonna have to get to know me a lot better before you can say that, Bub!

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
The primary purpose for females is to express relationship. What?! Yer gonna have to get to know me a lot better before you can say that, Bub!


I take it this means you are a female? You have an ambiguous handle.

There are exceptions to every rule of course. But I think it's true as a generalisation. Females talk to relate first, and only secondarily to convey information. Males primarily use language to convey information and relate more by doings things with other people rather than by talking with them.

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I take it this means you are a female? Yep; have been for almost 55 years now.

You have an ambiguous handle. Said the pot to the kettle! :-)

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
I take it this means you are a female? Yep; have been for almost 55 years now.


Another exception to the rule I see! So much for the old adage about females never admitting (let alone volunteering!) their age!

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Heh.

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Yep. You'll find that Jackie sure is special - t's why we love her!!

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Aww-ww! Love you too, Sweet Belle!

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