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#173316 02/08/2008 11:55 AM
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I'm trying to devise a few variations on a peg memory system. I'll spare you the details (unless asked) and cut to the chase. Think of it as a word puzzle.

I need a word that has only one consonant sound: "N". The word may contain other consonants, so long as they are unvoiced. It must also refer to a concrete object, or thing, or sound, or smell, but not a concept or action.

The suggested word is "Noah". That's okay, but I'm hoping for something better. I thought of "knee" and "neigh".

I also need a word that fits the above criteria but for "L". So far I have "lei", "loo", "law" (not really a concrete thing, but I can picture it as a judge or policeman); "M" (I have "may" as in hawthorne, "Ma", "me" and "moo"); "R" (I have "ray" as in stingray, "roo" as in kangaroo, and "rye").

For words containing two consonant sounds, I need "N R" (all I have is "Nero"); "N M" (all I have is "name"); "M V" or "M F" (I have "movie"); "J/SH/CH/soft G and F" (I have "chef"); and finally "F B/P" (I have "fob" and "fop").

Of course I could use one of the words I have already come up with, and will if nothing else is suggested, but the other 91 word pegs are so much better (moon, maze, gem, rain, lion, lamb, leech, lily) that the above just seem a little out of place.

Rare and obscure words are fine, so long as they refer to concrete objects or things that can be pictured.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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L: awl, oil, ala.
M: aum, Mao, ama, mot.
R: oar, roe.
MF: mafia.
MV: mauve.
NM: nim, nome.
NR: Aner, Onur, noor.

HTH. I have always liked peg systems since learning of them in an applied linguistics class (from a fellow student's report). Frances yates' The Art of Memory is still a good read, too.


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Are two of the same consonants accepted? Like nine? Inn works as well.

NR: near, noir


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Thanks zmjezhd! Your "awl" gave me "owl" which is better than "lei"!

And I agree. Peg systems are amazing. I was using a letter-shape peg, which gave me 26 spaces but I've decided to trade it in for Herigone's mnemonic system and take it up to 100. I'm using Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas's system, but tweaking a few of their peg words (hence my post).



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Are two of the same consonants accepted? Like nine? Inn works as well.


N = 2 so "inn" is good (one N sound) but "nine" = 22 for which I'm using "noon".

"Noir" is good for "Nero" (R = 4: Nero/Noir = 24).

It's a toss up between the two really. Neither is very concrete.

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Herigone's mnemonic system

This was the one we had demonstrated to us in class. The fellow memorized a list of one hundred words in something like 15 minutes and we asked him what's word number 38 and things like that. He alleged to have used the system for some tests in history.


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^ It sounds impressive doesn't it, but honestly, anyone can do it! Hell, I'm doing it and I'm the kind of guy who can't find the pencil behind his ear.

I highly—highly—recommend learning a peg system. I think they should be taught in school along with the ABCs.

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I think they should be taught in school along with the ABCs.

Yeah, I know what you mean, but, then, I think that grammar, logic, and rhetoric ought still to be taught in school.


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Funny, Nuncle... I think of you as anything but trivial.

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>grammar, logic, and rhetoric ought still to be taught in school.

Agreed.

> Funny, Nuncle... I think of you as anything but trivial.

You've lost me.

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trivial

Yeah, I guess we're all post-quadrivial on this data bus ...


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You've lost me.

My nickname is Nunc(le), because I used to have a word a day like list back in '94 under the nom d'IT of Uncle Jazzbeau. Later back around the turn of the millennium, I had a blog called Uncle Jazzbeau's Gallimaufrey. The first three classes of a medieval education were grammar, logic, and rhetoric: called the trivium (from the Latin for three-way intersection of roads). After that came the quadrivium (arithmetic, astronomy, geometry, and music). Trivial is the adjectival form of trivium.


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The first three classes of a medieval education were grammar, logic, and rhetoric: called the trivium (from the Latin for three-way intersection of roads).

I have been mantled by worse bozos.

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Originally Posted By: AnnaStrophic
The first three classes of a medieval education were grammar, logic, and rhetoric: called the trivium (from the Latin for three-way intersection of roads).

I have been mantled by worse bozos.


nah, that wasn't a mantle, just a little shoulder rub.


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If you listen very carefully, you can almost hear the sound of AnnaStrophic's quibble swooshing over my head.

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and flying quibbles are rare this time of year.


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I have been mantled by worse bozos.

Sorry about that. I'd take back my lambrequin, if I could, but I can't.


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flying quibbles

Saulting rarebit, quibbles are for triffids ...


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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd

Saulting rarebit, quibbles are for triffids ...


trans. for the unwashed: a play on Silly rabbit, trix are for kids

-joe (officiousness 'R us) friday

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Swoosh!

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How can I help with the swooshes, Hydra, besides suggesting that you take two aspirin and call me in the morning?

PS and I apologize for my part in the hijacking of your thread. These things happen around here...

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Swoosh! Me too, but thanks, U.J.


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