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Living off the grid.
Living; off the grid.

A woman without her man is lost.
A woman; without her, man is lost.

-bill ( always snooping for the elusive semi-colon ) gannon; et al

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
Penny! Good to see you, friend!

My longtime involovement with legal authorities in various forms, plus my even longer-time love of mystery books (and probably action movies, as well), makes my first thought (since as theFF said, no context was given) was people who deliberately make themselves untrackable by any governmental agency: work and pay for everything in cash, never use a credit card or their social security number.



This is the only definition of "living off the grid" that I was aware of.

Why would you want to live without electricity?

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Why would you want to live without electricity? [/quote]

Because you were reared, Amish.

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Penny! Good to see you, friend!

My longtime involovement with legal authorities in various forms, plus my even longer-time love of mystery books (and probably action movies, as well), makes my first thought (since as theFF said, no context was given) was people who deliberately make themselves untrackable by any governmental agency: work and pay for everything in cash, never use a credit card or their social security number.



This is the only definition of "living off the grid" that I was aware of.

Why would you want to live without electricity?


not necessarily without electricity, Bel, just not buying it from some big utilities company. having a wind generator or solar panels, etc.

btw, I just want to re-iterate, I have never heard it used any other way than in a utilities/electrical sense, so this other usage of hiding from the government is interesting.


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Originally Posted By: etaoin

not necessarily without electricity, Bel, just not buying it from some big utilities company. having a wind generator or solar panels, etc.

btw, I just want to re-iterate, I have never heard it used any other way than in a utilities/electrical sense, so this other usage of hiding from the government is interesting.


Me too, eta, which is why I brought it up. I find this discussion fascinating! Thank you all for your input. I'd like to be more off the grid for two reasons: a) We get a lot of power outages here and I hate that; 2) I'd like to use less energy and be less wasteful in general. [/teetering on the political]

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>>>not necessarily without electricity, Bel, just not buying it from some big utilities company. having a wind generator or solar panels, etc.

Ah, I see. It sounds nice, because you don't have to worry about black-outs, and such, but isn't all of that very expensive?

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>>>not necessarily without electricity, Bel, just not buying it from some big utilities company. having a wind generator or solar panels, etc.
The idea is fine when you live in a free standing house and can make your own decisions.
Towns, big cities, where most of the energy goes to have to deal with socio-political management. But here we would end up for real in a socio- political argument. I'll stick to the blackberry jam.

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>>>not necessarily without electricity, Bel, just not buying it from some big utilities company. having a wind generator or solar panels, etc.

Ah, I see. It sounds nice, because you don't have to worry about black-outs, and such, but isn't all of that very expensive?


not in the long run is the idea. besides being healthier for the environment (in lots of cases).


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Interesting that in "living off the grid" and "living off the land", two concepts that fit well together socio-politically, the phrase "living off" has two diametrically opposed meanings.

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Another grid - related feed from the future:

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