thanks for that info on the royal house of Orange.

NYC has a blue/white/orange flag (from its dutch origins) and there are orange counties (in nystate, and nj) and i always wondered why the was a house of orange.

(since my vague knowledge of european history recognizes there was a conflict with spain and the 'low lands' (and that at some point the netherlands became independant (again--i am presuming) but why they kept a house of Orange? (since i presumed that the county and the fruit shared a common source)

i think i know most of what i know about the conflict between spain and the netherlands from sea shanties, not history books!

my other obsession