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#169850 09/06/07 02:03 PM
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I was curious about this word and related words, such as bandbox, band
wagon, band as in orchestra, band as in rubber band. Do words such as
contraband come from the same root?

Jerry Jewler #169851 09/06/07 02:04 PM
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I was curious about this word and related words, such as bandbox, band
wagon, band as in orchestra, band as in rubber band. Do words such as
contraband come from the same root?

Jerry Jewler #169852 09/06/07 02:14 PM
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Here you go, Jerry, and welcome aBoard:
etymology dictionary

Jackie #169853 09/06/07 02:36 PM
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as to your question, specif. contraband, it seems to be unrelated:

Etymology: Italian contrabbando, from Medieval Latin contrabannum, from Latin contra- + Medieval Latin bannus, bannum decree, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German ban command [W3]

-joe (words such as contraband?) friday

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I alway assumed that bandboxes were so named because of a thin strip (band) used to reinforce them. But then I have a friend who assumed that berriboned hats were so called because of the boning used in their construction like the boned corsets of the same era.
How small orchestra's became bands I don't know. Thinner sound???

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The band that's a thin strip of flexible material is etymologically unrelated to the band that's a group of people.

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you've been mantled, Jackie.

tsuwm #169865 09/07/07 05:44 AM
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re: berriboned hats

aren't they Be ribboned hats (be here like a bespoken suit..not really sure of meaning or where the BE comes from.

but Beribboned.. hats make and/or dressed with ribbons.

many hand where made with plaited/braided ribbons (made from fine grass, or even coarse cotton (something like narrow stripes of gros grain ribbon) the ribbons were coiled and sewn together and shaped. now day, you can still find hats made in this style, but often the 'ribbon' is a narrow nylon braid.

my ex's grand mother worked as teen in a ribbon hat factory.. making hats.. (i am not much of a milanire.)

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
you've been mantled, Jackie.


I composed the post and then checked Jackie's etymonline link finding that it said almost the same thing. I then went back and backed out of my post. I didn't do the mantling. It was a gremlin did it.

That said, I would value AHD's etymological information (which doesn't go as far making the link as etymonline does) over etymonline's any day.

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Hi Helen,
yes they were ribboned hats but she only realized that years later. I just meant that it wasn't wise to trust (esp. my) assumptions.

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