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#169588 08/19/07 02:37 PM
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Aren't some words ending in S often used in the plural without "'s" or "es"

To me, I have three beautiful cypress sounds perfectly acceptable even though I can't defend the practice. On the other hand, we know three grasses sounds quite normal, while I can't see why there should be a difference

Can anyone confirm my observation, and if so, what's the difference--thanks all


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How should one cypress be pronouned in American English?
A Cypress, a Cypress or a Cyperss ?

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A Cypress.


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Thank you, One Look did not give Encarta, which has a audio service. I always read the accent in the back. (ce-press).
Wrong.

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>audio service

try American Heritage

-joe (click the little speaker icon) friday

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I recently saw a log posting that pointed out that some plants get normal type plurals and some get what they call the zero-plural. One might say, for example, that "I planted wheat" or "I planted corn" but not "I planted pea" or "I planted potato." I've been looking for the posting but can't find it. There was no easy to apply rule that the poster could work out.

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Aha! I found it. Here

I'd suggest printing it for easier reading.

Note: Asterisks (*) before words or sentences indicate incorrect usages. Yes, descriptivist linguists do recognize the existence of incorrect usages

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I've seen/heard it for animals, too. Deer hunters: "We shot three buck." African safari people: "We saw a lot of zebra."

I don't know of any grammar rules for this.

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The one "rule" I know is that when you have, say, five neon tetras in your home aquarium you have five fish. If you have five neon tetras, a plecostomus, and two kissing gouramis you have three fishes.

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Anna: Another good example. Very mysterious

Fal: Indeed, good point. In fact, I have 319 Arizona cypress and three Italian cypress. Thus I have 322 cypress but only two cypresses

In your example, however, there is in fact a distinction: "wheat" and "corn" are collective (?) nouns where "pea" and "potato" are not

Or am I begging the question--that is, in the classic meaning of the phrase

But thank you for that link. I am overwhelmed


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I've seen/heard it for animals, too. Deer hunters: "We shot three buck." African safari people: "We saw a lot of zebra."

I don't know of any grammar rules for this.


Could be "shot three bucks" sounds too much like squandering $3?
But the best stripe conventions are loaded with zebrae.


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