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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread On the Ides of August #169521 08/13/2007 11:06 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Quote: March, July, October, and May The nones are on the seventh day. And ides fall eight days after the Nones. Anu's poem needs another line. I suggest Quote: March, July, October, and May The nones are on the seventh day. And ides fall eight days after the Nones and if you can remember that you don't need cojones. I think it's odd that he should choose a quote that illustrates a misuse of the word. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On the Ides of August Faldage #169522 08/13/2007 11:10 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 fschorn stranger fschorn stranger Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Would a letter to the editors at Fortune be appropriate sharing that the ides of August was on the 13th, and not the 15th? I honestly didn't know this fact myself until this morning! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On the Ides of August fschorn #169523 08/13/2007 11:32 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 The notoriety of the Ides of March has left many with the impression that the Ides invariably fall on the 15th. I wouldn't bother with nyah-nyahing the editors of Fortune but I would expect better of Anu. Another potentially interesting question is whether the "Beware the Ides of March" line predates Shakespeare. I have nothing more than a vague felling that legend says that he was warned, possibly by that classic oxymoron, the blind seer. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On the Ides of August Faldage #169525 08/13/2007 1:00 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5 fibitz stranger fibitz stranger Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 5 The far-more-comprehensive and correct version I learned in Latin class: In March, July, October, May, The Ides are on the fifteenth day, The Nones the seventh; and all besides Have two days less for Nones and Ides. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On the Ides of August Faldage #169526 08/13/2007 1:51 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Googling cave idus Martias reveals sloganed t-shirts, high school Latin plays, and plenty of blog entries, but no citations from the classical authors. Found this page by adding tu quoque (which Shagsberd turned into et tu, Brute) into the mix. According to Suetonius, the haruspex who does the warning had the name of Spurinna. Quote: Et immolantem haruspex Spurinna monuit, caveret periculum, quod non ultra Martias Idus proferretur. [...] Dein pluribus hostiis caesis, cum litare non posset, introiit curiam spreta religione Spurinnamque irridens et ut falsum arguens, quod sine ulla sua noxa Idus Martiae adessent: quanquam is "venisse quidem eas" diceret, "sed non praeterisse." The soothsayer Spurinna, observing certain ominous appearances in a sacrifice which he was offering, advised him to beware of some danger, which threatened to befall him before the ides of March were past. [...] Victim after victim was slain, without any favourable appearances in the entrails; but still, disregarding all omens, he entered the senate-house, laughing at Spurinna as a false prophet, because the ides of March were come without any mischief having befallen him. To which the soothsayer replied, "They are come, indeed, but not past." [Ed. by Alexander Thomson.] Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On the Ides of August fibitz #169529 08/13/2007 2:35 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Larivey stranger Larivey stranger Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Me too--I was just about to post this when I saw your post. My Latin 2 high school teacher would be thrilled I remembered this! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On the Ides of August fibitz #169540 08/13/2007 9:05 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3 sudz stranger sudz stranger Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3 This is the version I learned as well. It remains inscribed on the back page of my Bennet's New Latin Grammar on the shelf beside my Cassell's. 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