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Jo! Gonna hang around a while?
It took me a bit (led astray by assuming it was a Scots variant of "freakin'"). It's a play on vegan, na?
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A blend of fruitarian and vegan, eh M(r)s witch of pendle? Welcome back, btw. EDIT. On reading the article, I see it's actually a blend of fruitcake and vegan, embodying GBS's words: "One who is not a socialist at twenty has no heart, and one who remains a socialist at thirty has no head."
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Not to go off-thread or anything,  but are we sure this quote is from Shaw?
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Discuss the roots of the word, or the meaning of the movement?
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are we sure this quote is from Shaw?Usually attributed to Churchill, it's supposedly by François Guizot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." Guizot was a minister under Louis Philippe, the citizen king of France. It seems to have been revived in the 20th century in its modern form by Clemenceau.
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I believe Max is just editorializing. On the other hand, these freegans, far from rejecting capitalism, are depending on it. Without the culture that would throw food away because it's more costly to keep it than it is to dispose of it they would starve.
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I believe Max is just editorializing. You're absolutely right. The quote in question is widely attributed to Shaw as well. I first came across it in a list of "his" quotes, and googling for it with his name is quite fruitful. Which is every bit as definitive and authoritative as any Wikipedia article.
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Which is every bit as definitive and authoritative as any Wikipedia article.
Ah, yes, I had forgotten what low esteem the Wikipedia is held in in these quarters. I am sorry, please excuse the laziness on my part. If it's any consolation, the article linked to was just to give one an idea of who Guizot was. The quotation is not mentioned in the article, but googling Francois Guizot turns up plenty of attributions of the little folk meme in question. If I am not mistaken G B Shaw remained a socialist into late life, and, so, the statement seems out of character, though, I suppose he could've meant it ironically.
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Which is every bit as definitive and authoritative as any Wikipedia article.
Ah, yes, I had forgotten what low esteem the Wikipedia is held in in these quarters. I am sorry, please excuse the laziness on my part. If it's any consolation, the article linked to was just to give one an idea of who Guizot was. Mea culpa - I hadn't even checked the link in your earlier post, and had no idea it was to a Wikipedia article. My comment was intended to be a self-deprecating concession of the likelihood of my Shavian attribution being in error, not a shot at your Guizot reference.
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