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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? #167333 04/05/2007 1:55 AM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Curuinor journeyman Curuinor journeyman Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... I have Toscanini's version of the 9th in my mp3 collection(don't ask— but completely legal, I tell you). I cannot understand a word of the lyrics, which is compounded by the 'interesting' pronunciation of German. Hence, I ask for Beethoven's 9th in an alphabet completely devoid of the possibility of such irregularities: that is, the IPA. I exist! I am a pedant! I have a foreboding signature! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Curuinor #167343 04/05/2007 12:51 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Good luck. Some musical scores may offer pronunciation of the Schiller ode, or you might find a recording of it recited (no music). What's "interesting" about the Toscanini version? What nationality is the chorus? (I'm assuming it's the NBC Orchestra...) There is a standard English translation if all you want to know is what the words mean. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? AnnaStrophic #167344 04/05/2007 2:03 PM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Curuinor journeyman Curuinor journeyman Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... http://www.bsherman.org/ninth.html I know what the words mean. The article waxes lyric about tempo in the Symphony, and then praises Toscanini's recording. There's a lot of other similar sites out there. He says the 1938 recording is as good, if not better, but I prefer to take the word of Toscanini himself; he didn't approve the 1938 version. I'll try to get a score, then. I exist! I am a pedant! I have a foreboding signature! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Curuinor #167346 04/05/2007 2:14 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont I guess I really don't know what you're looking for, but there's these: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/931_Schiller_Ode.html http://www.raptusassociation.org/ode1785.html formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Buffalo Shrdlu #167347 04/05/2007 2:18 PM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Curuinor journeyman Curuinor journeyman Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Not a translation: a simple changing of the alphabet. I exist! I am a pedant! I have a foreboding signature! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Curuinor #167349 04/05/2007 2:19 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont depends on what German you talk to, I would say. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Buffalo Shrdlu #167350 04/05/2007 2:26 PM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Curuinor journeyman Curuinor journeyman Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Well, then, I wish to speak to a phonetician German. I exist! I am a pedant! I have a foreboding signature! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Curuinor #167351 04/05/2007 2:36 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont perhaps find a recording by a reputable German group? formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Buffalo Shrdlu #167353 04/05/2007 5:05 PM Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 557 Dallas, TX Myridon addict Myridon addict Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 557 Dallas, TX ɑː juː ʃʊɹ ðɑt aɪ piː eɪ ɪs izʌɹ θæn dʒʌɹmæn? Last edited by Myridon; 04/05/2007 5:06 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Myridon #167359 04/05/2007 11:41 PM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Curuinor journeyman Curuinor journeyman Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 72 Land where ne'er-do-wells rule... Absolutely. I exist! I am a pedant! I have a foreboding signature! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? Curuinor #167417 04/08/2007 2:16 AM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Oh well, here goes. I'm not a native speaker and I have a bit of a Rhenish accent, but maybe Herr Doktor Sieber can correct my errors. Hope this helps. Deutsch: Freude, schöner Gotterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum. Deine Zauber binden wieder, Was die Mode streng geteilt, Alle Menschen werden Brüder, Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt. IPA: frɔʏ̯də ʃœnə gɔtəfʊŋkn tɔxtə ʔaʊ̯s ʔeːlʏzijʊm vɪr bətreːtn fɔʏ̯rtrʊŋkn hɪmlɪʃə daɪ̯n haɪ̯lɪgtʊm daɪ̯nə tsaʊ̯bə bɪndn viːdə vas diː moːdə ʃtrɛŋ gətaɪlt alə mɛnʃn vɛrdn brʏdə voː daɪ̯n sanftə flʏgl vaɪ̯lt Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? zmjezhd #218520 09/17/2014 10:24 PM Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1 England KatieC stranger KatieC stranger Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1 England Dear Zmjezhd - Thank you so much for the IPA transcription of part of the Ode to Joy, which I've just come across seven years later. How about the other bits the choir has to sing, ie "ja, wer auch nur... aus diesem Bund", "Kusse gab sie... steht vor Gott" and "Seid umschlungen... muss er wohnen" Sorry I haven't got access to the diacritics. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Beethoven's 9th lyrics in the IPA? KatieC #218528 09/18/2014 3:15 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,971 Likes: 3 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,971 Likes: 3 Land of the Flat Water Seven years late is better than not at all. 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