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Do not these embarrassment feelings stretch further than just the 'in-group' or 'out-group'? When you see an openly lying politician does that not give you the same feeling of shame? Or when someone on TV you don't know at all happily throws away intimicies you would not want to hear about at all? (I always shun those programs)
How does that work in this context? , with the paternalistic aspect and all.
Or is there a sharp difference between embarrassment and shame?
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Now you all go forth from these pages and become better people. ()
But, I can't !
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But, I can't !
To which side?
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I turned up commiserate and condolence by entering "pity for others' embarrassment" in OneLook's reverse dictionary
Maybe there's no exact word
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how about (once again!) compassion?
Deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it.
it is said to be a synonym for pity, but based on the word passion, (to burn).
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We say "vergüenza ajena", which translates as "embarrasment for others". We seem to feel this for people we don't know or don't particularly like (e.g. the politicians in the example below), so there's no real element of compassion...
This doesn't help at all with the initial question, sorry...
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it is said to be a synonym for pity, but based on the word passion, (to burn).What does passion have to do with burning? It's from the past passive participle ( passus) of the Latin deponent verb patior 'to bear, support, undergo, suffer, endure'.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Cool, zmjezhd--thank you.
Edit: I have a vague memory of this very topic (embarrassed for someone else) being discussed here a l-o-n-g time ago; but no memory of whether there was an answer, unfortunately. Even if there was a keyword that would be a fairly outstanding search term, it wouldn't do me any good because I can't access the old board. Perhaps someone whose browser will let them would be willing to give it a try.
Edit #2: Ooh! If patior has a soft t, then...---> patience!
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Myr, good one. Did you try it and how did it work
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