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 fwiw, Dolt and Dullard are the putative authors of The Idiot's Guide for Dummies.
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 fwiw, Dolt and Dullard are the putative authors of The Idiot's Guide for Dummies.
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 >>I have written the Ultimate Self-Help Book!
 The Complete Idiot's Guide for Dummies.
 
 Wow!! Can I have your autograph?
 
 
 http://preview.tinyurl.com/yzc4qj
 
 
 oops, this was re: PT, not re: Zed!
 
 
 
 Well.
 I am quite flattered.  No, I am not the author of THAT book, but the idea is my own.  And I have been prophesing it for over 5 years now.
 Not the first time one of my great ideas has been taken
  
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Pompous, campy, solipsistic Aramis is backing Jackie on this one. "Orientate" is retarded and if it shows in any dictionary it is only because of some kind of "enough empty heads are spouting it so we must put it in there" rule. Little doubt "conotate" will be added one day for the same reason.   
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~ will have to make a comeback!
 connotate
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 Obs.
 
 [f. connotat-, ppl. stem of med.L. connotare: see CONNOTE.]
 
 1. trans. = CONNOTE 1.
 1596 BELL Surv. Popery I. III. iv. 101 They connotate 490 yeares. 1609 {emem} Theoph. & Remig. 124 The inward man doth connotate the soule, and the outward man the body. a1679 T. GOODWIN Wks. III. I. 256 (R.) His repentance was withall significantly connotated thereby. 1697 J. SERGEANT Solid Philos. 51 'Tis impossible to conceive Humanity, for Example, without connotating Homo its Suppositum.
 
 2. Of things or facts; = CONNOTE 2.
 1640 BP. REYNOLDS Passions xl. 519 Law and Punishment being Relatives, and mutually connotating each the other. a1660 HAMMOND (J.), God's foreseeing doth not include or connotate predetermining, any more than I decree with my intellect.
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That they are actual old, actual words proves that antiques are not necessarily beautiful. Check out your local antique store if you don't believe me.  Most of the ugly stuff got turfed but some of it is still around. ps anna doesn't want my autograph.  I'm crushed - welll maybe slightly squeezed.  
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You talkin to me, nunc?
 Nope, I was talking to the poster with the dot sig line.
 
 Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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if it shows in any dictionary it is only because of some kind of "enough empty heads are spouting it so we must put it in there" ruleThe COED  is OK with me. 
 Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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And remember, the English language is nothing but a collection of usages that were once "incorrect" and words that were once neologisms. |  |  |  
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 "Orientate" is a perfectly valid form. 
 
 
 
 
 Is not. Oughtn't. The verb is "orient."
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 Say what you will, but "orient" is a verbed noun; "orientate" has never been anything but a verb.
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Astounding. Did the dictionary writers make "imaginate" a word too?  Certainly tarnate  will be in the Oxferd Hillbilly Dikshunary.     |  |  |  
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imaginate - obs. to imagine (ca. 1570) [OED] |  |  |  
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What was old is new again! 
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