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#162791 11/17/2006 10:58 AM
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The first four stitches go onto a holding needle and the next four stitches go in the row. Next pass the second four stitches become the first four and the first four get knitted back on to the working needles as the second four. Left circular shift four.

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You will be amongst the survivers!-+_-+_-+_-+_

#162793 11/17/2006 1:37 PM
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Yeah, but can you Nittany Lions?


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#162794 11/17/2006 2:02 PM
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Nitters can nit whatever they like to pick.

#162795 11/20/2006 4:30 PM
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Nitters can nit whatever they like to pick.



A purl of wisdom?


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#162796 11/20/2006 5:28 PM
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A mouse that roared.

#162797 12/11/2006 8:26 PM
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A mere basic grammar question, which I would be glad to find an answer to:

When I put the TV on I just heard someone say :

" After all I'm a Stevens , aren't I?"
This is plural for the verb but not for the personal pronoun. Is this correct?

Should it maybe have been or could there also be used here: " , am I not?"

Are both forms correct maybe ? Would anyone be willing to aswer this question? Is it spoken and not written language perhaps?

#162798 12/11/2006 11:19 PM
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Another case of the rules being totally inapplicable to the language as she is spoke.

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Might have something to do with the royal we.

During Victoria's reign, things Australian and African were much in vogue. One time Vicky and all the ladies in her court dressed up to look like ostriches for a costume party.

A male member of the court mentioned to the Victoria that he thought they made absolutely stunning emus. Vicky drew herself up to her full height, which wasn't much, and looked down at the courtier haughtily and intoned those historical words: "We are not emus."

Of course this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, but I can never resist even the remotest opportunity to tell that story.


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a case is made for bringing back ain't!

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One theory about its origin, which I read many years ago, is that it is a hypercorrected and rhoticized pronounciation of ain't (amn't).


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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One theory about its origin, which I read many years ago, is that it is a hypercorrected and rhoticized pronounciation of ain't (amn't).




That's my understanding, too, helen o.t. and zm.

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Yes, that makes sense as the sound rolls a bit similar. The word rhoticized may be quite a young word and is new to me. None of the dictionaries could present it. Only Wikipedia.

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Your first instinct is correct.
The proper use of "I" and "me" is very often confused in (American Culture) English.
I can still recall grade-school teachers emphasizing the proper use of "John and I" as opposed to "John and me" and I think this has caused us to resist (hesitate) using "me" when it is appropriate; as in, "Carry that for Mom and me".

Additionally, I am continually annoyed by the misuse of "myself"; as in, "If you have any questions contact Bill or myself"


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The proper use of "I" and "me" is very often confused in (American Culture) English.




The proper use of "ye" and "you" is gone completely in almost all dialects of English, even disregarding the improper use of it as a singular pronoun.

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