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yes, your right there-- it was the fashion for robber barons to send daughter to Europe to marry poor lords/dukes/earls/what ever. Churchill's mother was Jenny Jerome-- Jenny's father was a NY land speculator, and owned a race track (now site of reservoir)- there is also a major street named after him– Jerome Avenue. Jenny was sent for "Finishing" to europe and married well..
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Her name was Nancy Witcher Langhorne. She is also reputed to have referred to the soldiers who took part in the invasion of Italy as D-Day Dodgers
If her Ladyship did, indeed, say this ... I say SHAME!
This hits a very sore spot for me .. I had relatives in the 8th Army and an uncle who was among the men who fought in the three battles for the Kasserine Pass and a neighbor's son was killed at the battle of Monte Cassino. Hell on earth found itself a fact in those places. Too many brave decent American and British boys went through that hell called The Italian Campaign to ever be described as Lady Astor allegedly did.
For more info in UK and world wide, consult "The Oxford Companion to World War II" published in 1995 by Oxford Press -- in US the ISBN is 0-19-866225-4
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Dear of troy: I recently read biography of Churchill that said he had a brother apparently sired by one of his mother's lovers, and that his father died of syphilis contracted as result of college classmates as a prank (Ye Gods, what a prank) putting a diseased prostitute in bed with him when he was intoxicated. So perhaps Jennie Jerome was no bargain as a bride. I was mildly appalled that this information appeared in an otherwise good book.wwh
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wow adds: If her Ladyship did, indeed, say this ... I say SHAME!I whole-heartedly agree, wow. My uncle was in the 442nd. They spent most of their duty in Italy. A couple of slightly different versions of the song: http://www.warlinks.com/jackcull/ddodgers.htmhttp://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/english/ddaydodg.htmI have trouble maintaining composure while reading the last verse. More available by googling "d-day dodgers"
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and that his father died of syphilis
Well, that is old new to me, as for his brother not being quite his brother-- a blood test would tell for sure.
and as for Jennie being no bargain, on the scales of things, making a man wear horns, or giving your wife a (at the time ) untreatable, deadly disease-- i think Jennie got the worse half of the bargain!
I think if i knew my hubby had syphilis, i would have all my children via (disease free) lovers! congential syphilis is a very ugly disease...
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"Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. If you still don't like him, he's a mile away with no shoes." 
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When asked if I would rather have hot dogs for fingers or no bottom jaw (don't even ask how that came up in conversation!), my reply was:
"I'd like to have both. That way, if I was tempted to eat my fingers, I couldn't. Because, hey, I have no bottom jaw."
The 'mile away with no shoes' bit reminded me of it ~ it has that Jack Handy ring.
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If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?
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Fortunately for Winston, his father would no longer have been infectious by time he got married, though the jolly little corkscrews (spirochetes) were taking a long rest before destroying his brain.
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see as how you have an MD after your name, I'll believe you, but i thought syphilis could continue to be contagous even after the inital chanker had healed..
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