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a friend posted an recipe (on another board i visit--don't worry--this is not a food thread)it was for pomegranate vinegrette..
 
 i know the subject is a YART--but its a very old yart..
 
 the word,pomegranate, is, as some (most) of you, might know is made of two word parts, pom (apple) and granite (seed)--a name that suits it perfectly..
 
 granite (the rock) is seedy too. its a metimorphic rock, made from grains of sand, and sometimes, you can still see the them (or see something that appears like grains or seeds)
 
 pomegranate syrpup, is 'grenadine' and the county granada all so owes its name to a seedy root..
 
 there are other seedy words out there..
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Granite is igneous.  You may be thinking of quartzite 
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oops~ well it is granite that has a fine 'flecked' quality (as well as veins) that give it its name. |  |  |  
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pomegranate
 You forgot grenade 'the handheld, small bomb' (though nowadays they're rocket-propelled). The early ones looked like pomegranates. From Latin granatus 'having seeds' from granum 'seed, grain'.
 
 Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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actually-i didn't forget it--
 i didn't know it!
 (and no, i didn't look up the proper roots/i sort of have an idea and knew the granate was from a root word for seed, (but not the the exact spelling of the root.)
 
 and i think it goes further back than the latin.. (but i could be wrong)
 
 there are other (fairly) common words out there in this group... (anyone want to add to the list?)
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Grenade, like grain, corn, kernel, et al., comes, via Latin, from the PIE root *gr@no - 'grain'. 
 Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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 Granite is igneous.  You may be thinking of quartzite
 
 
 
 
 Not so fast, Dalehileman. Geological terms are keen examples of the fuzzy nature of all the words we use.
 From the web...
 
 "Debate has long centered on whether granite is igneous or metamorphic in origin. Originally granite was thought to form mainly from magmatic differentiation of basaltic magma, but geologists now believe there is simply too much of it for it to have formed this way, except locally. Most granite seems to have formed either by melting, partial melting, or metamorphism of deeply buried shale and sandstone. Granite dikes are clearly igneous, and granite emplaced in the upper few kilometers of the Earth's crust also often shows evidence of forceful intrusion into surrounding rocks, whereas some granites that formed deeper within the crust seem not to have been forcefully emplaced. Evidence of intrusion or great mobility is considered to indicate an igneous origin that stems from melting of sediments; but where no good evidence of either a magma chamber or of fluidity is observed, a metamorphic origin must be considered."
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the:  Well I'll be doggoned
 But in my own defense, Merriam's very latest New Explorer, 2006 ed, calls it igneous
 
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Quote:
 the county granada all so owes its name to a seedy root
 
 
 
 The country is Grenada, but Granada is a province and city in Spain, a department and city in Nicaragua, etc.
 
 garnet - a pomegranate colored gem
 
 granadilla - a passionflower related fruit/plant/wood.
 granary - a storehouse for grain
 granatin - a chemical found in pomegranates
 granatite/grenatite - another name for staurolite
 granatum - bark/stem of pomegranate used as a remedy
 graniferous - bearing seeds
 graniform - shaped like corn
 granilla - small grains or dust of cochineal or the coccus insect
 granita - an icy beverage or dessert
 grantic/granitical - hard as granite
 granitification - forming into granite
 granitiform - like granite
 granitin - an aggregate mineral
 granitite - granite rich in biotite
 granitization, granitize, granitoid -
 granivorous - eating grain
 granodiorite - course-grained igneous rock
 granodioritic
 granola - you know
 granolith/ic - paving of chipped granite
 granophyre - another type of rock
 granophyric - like "
 granoplasm - granular protoplasm
 granula, granular, granulatio, granulation, granule, granuliform, granulodipose, granuloblast, granuloblastosis, granulocorpuscle, granulocyte, -cytic, ... , granuloma, ... (as you can tell I'm being held hostage in a medical dictionary...)
 
 grenache? - red grape - no etymology given
 grenadier - a soldier with grenades
 Grenadines - a chain of islands
 
 I've bored even myself now, so I'll stop.
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Igneous pigneousMr Dale Hileman sez
 “Granite’s so granular -
 Must be the heat.”
 
 “Far from clear,” Milo says,
 “Words change their state in use:
 Metamorphology –
 Process complete!”
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Igneous fatuous?See ignis fatuus . 
 Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Quote:
 
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 the county granada all so owes its name to a seedy root
 
 
 
 The country is Grenada, but Granada is a province and city in Spain, a department and city in Nicaragua, etc.
 
 
 
 
 Just FTR, commenting on helen's spelling is like commenting on the character development in the Manhattan phone book.
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i know that book.. lots of interesting names and places, even if there isn't much of plot! |  |  |  
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 granola - you know
 
 
 
 
 
 No, I don't know. I've often seen it referred to in American sources but I don't know what it is.
 
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As far as I know, muesli has horrid* flakes of cereal mixed into it.  Granola just has the good stuff:  dried fruits, nuts, maybe sweetened clumps of crisp, toasted oatmeal.  Handy as energy food on the trail.*get soggy in about one second
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It can also be compressed into a bar to be ingested in similar manner as a candy one; not to be confused with shinola .    
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Those flakes must be the Raisin-Bran kind. Sometimes the cereal producers do include almonds to add some cyanide flavour.    |  |  |  | 
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