#16055
01/23/2001 4:42 PM
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You are so right, words and their correct pronunciations----Who is correct? We will never ever know. I am from Wisconsin and now live in Eastern Ohio near Pittsburgh and to hear the name Cinncinnati pronounced just kills me----the regionals say "Cinncinaata" and here is another one that kills me--------
"Awl youse" (All you) But actually, we should just learn to accept people and the way they say things---We have a German exchange student with us and he always insults the way us Americans do things or say things-----Well I think that when we go to Germany----we would be sent back if we sounded as insulting as him.
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" as the old saying goes and it seems people have forgotten that.
And how about this one--"Are ya goin to get yor hairs cut."
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#16056
01/23/2001 11:04 PM
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the regionals say "Cinncinaata"
Excuse me? I've never heard anyone who actually lives in the Cincinnati area call it "Cincinnaata." My grandmother who lives in northern Ohio, though . . .
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#16057
01/23/2001 11:32 PM
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Well, catharse all you want with your squankings, but please let me get out of earshot.How can you say this? Jazz has produced some of the most beautiful songs ever conceived. Just to name a few that you might want to check out: Louis Armstrong: West End Blues Bix Beiderbecke: Singin' the Blues Rhapsody in Blue Count Basie: Jumpin' at the Woodside Artie Shaw: Begin the Beguine Erroll Garner: Misty Anything Billie Holiday or Lester Young Miles Davis: Kind of Blue Dave Brubeck/Paul Desmond: Blue Rhondo ala Turk, Take Five Body and Soul I'm sure these would change your mind about the "squankings." (Obviously, you don't want to listen to Charlie Parker.) Jazz is America's music. It's creative, lively, beautiful and inspiring all at the same time. The amount of emotion that some of these artists had was astounding. Jazz fueled the roaring '20s and got the nation through the Depression and it's not something to brushed aside as wasteful, meaningless noise. Info on the thrilling 'Jazz' documentary can be found at http://www.pbs.org/jazz
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#16058
01/23/2001 11:44 PM
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To blend a couple of apposite aphorisms, or trite truisms, Jazz, we must remember that, while music may be the food of love, what is one person's meat is another's poison. For instance, and I hope Bingley will take no offence at this, gamelan music fits the "poison" category for me. 
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#16059
01/23/2001 11:53 PM
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Notice how that list uses a lot of the word "blue"... I have to protest - even if only from exposure - Erroll Garner's Misty has lost all of it's appeal (I just played the damn thing too many times...it's that whole repetition thing (Hi Marty) - no matter who plays it, sings it, tap's it or otherwise, and it really wasn't that much of a "jazz" tune "to begin with". She probably wouldn't want to listen to early Lester Young, either...  ...but Jazz can be ugly and sickening (and wasteful and meaningless), and that, too, is appealing!  JazzO - We'll have to start A Jazz A Day if we keep this up "publicly"...
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#16060
01/24/2001 12:11 AM
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Thanks soooo much for correcting me. Regionals could mean local area or statewide and since I am from Wisconsin, I thought that perhaps that is the way Cinncinnati is pronouced here----I never corrected those that said it. So now I know---since I live near Akron, Ohio and you said your Grandmother in Northern Ohio----well then I guess it is only the Northeast Ohio natives that say it. Thanks again, Jazzoctopus. Keep up the great work. You sound like a great kid.
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#16061
01/24/2001 1:14 AM
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As catalyst for the sidetrack onto jazz and the relative merits (or demerits) of jazz and bluegrass music, I wish to state for the record that this Kentuckian owns a number of jazz tapes and CD's, but none of the bluegrass variety. I must confess a preference for horses to octopi, but this could be due to lack of familiarity with the latter, and should not be taken as any sort of personal slight.
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#16062
01/24/2001 3:07 AM
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A lot of people in Kentucky say "Cincinnaata".
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#16063
01/24/2001 4:23 AM
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In reply to:
For instance, and I hope Bingley will take no offence at this, gamelan music fits the "poison" category for me.
Well, there's gamelan and gamelan. I find Sundanese music pleasant background music, but I'm not too keen on Balinese -- it sounds very jerky to me. Javanese can be very soothing. Of course, Indonesians have a very different attitude to it from what we have. You're not really supposed to sit down and listen to it as "great art". It is there for accompaniment to other activities. It's always fun to watch foreigners sitting very seriously at a performance while the locals wander about chatting and occasionally glancing at the stage.
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#16064
01/24/2001 8:51 AM
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Love jazz, Jazz.
In particular Dave Brubeck's "Take Five". I've been playing it a lot recently, having taken the decision to mark the end of the last millennium by purchasing all the recordings that I had always planned to get but had never got round to.
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#16065
01/24/2001 10:02 AM
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Brubeck is great. if you like that add something by The Modern Jazz Quartet to your collection.
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#16066
01/24/2001 12:19 PM
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To the belle Canadienne:
Yep, pure antithesis to jazz, but he did do a mean rendition of "Gilligan's Island" [my-turn-to-run-and-duck emoticon]
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#16067
01/24/2001 1:19 PM
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Excuse me? I've never heard anyone who actually lives in the Cincinnati area call it "Cincinnaata." It sort of gives a whole new aspect to Cincinnati to hear Proper Bostonians call it "Sin-Sin-Naughty!" wow
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#16068
01/24/2001 4:40 PM
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Paul Desmond's sound is one of my favorites (I think even Jackie would approve), however, Stan Getz should be right up your...
What are some other words for "alley" (that place behind your garage (car port) that one keeps the trash cans (rubbish receptacles) here in the "Very Large Northeastern Town in Illinois"?
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#16069
01/24/2001 5:09 PM
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What are some other words for "alley" (that place behind your garage (car port) that one keeps the trash cans (rubbish receptacles) here in the "Very Large Northeastern Town in Illinois"?
I don't know about Illinois but I can give you some Canadian (Manitoba) alternatives. I would call it a "back lane", where people keep their "garbage cans". Also, for me, a garage has a door and is completely enclosed, whereas a carport is sort of a roof on legs, with some walls, or no walls, but definitely not enclosed.
However - now that I've moved the "the oldest city in North America" I have come to realize that back lanes and garages are relatively new things. We live in an older part of St. John's so there are no back lanes - everyone's yard abuts everyone else's. Everyone parks on the street, unless they've paved their front "lawn" (postage stamp size) into a parking pad. And no one has garbage cans because the wind would make the neighbourhood into a very dangerous place on garbage day!
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#16070
01/24/2001 5:27 PM
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If you ever visit Newfoundland you should basically assume that no matter how you THINK a name is pronounced, be it ever so simply spelled, you're probably wrong (compared to what the locals would say). For example
Pouch Cove = "Pooch cove"
Baie d'Espoir = "Bay despair"
Baie Verte = "Bay vurt"
Topsail = "Topsl"
Baccalieu = "BaccaLOO"
Quidi Vidi = "Kiddy Viddy"
The list goes on...I've become so used to most of them that I no longer notice them as odd pronunciations!
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#16071
01/25/2001 1:37 AM
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This Board always makes me realize how varied English really is. In the last three posts we have had three different definitions for the same item: rubbish receptacle, trash can, and garbage can.
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#16072
01/25/2001 5:04 AM
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You can add dustbin for the one outside your home and rubbish bins for the ones in public places.
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#16073
01/25/2001 6:14 PM
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Recently read an article in a UK publication about something being "ready for the pedal can". Loved that. We have one in our kitchen but I'd never heard that term before.
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#16074
01/25/2001 6:42 PM
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Euphemism in South changes "pecan" to "p'cahn" to avoid causing hearer to think of vile urine container.
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#16075
01/26/2001 1:18 AM
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Why do people pronouce Missouri "Missoura" but Mississippi is not "Mississippa"? 
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#16076
01/26/2001 2:11 AM
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>Why do people pronouce Missouri "Missoura" but Mississippi is not "Mississippa"?<
Hmmm, is this a reversal of putting an "r" on the end of "idea?"
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#16077
01/26/2001 3:17 PM
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Missouri
Even stranger, I'm told that while Arkansas is pronounced Ar-ken-saw when referring to the state, the eponymous river is pronounced the way it's written, Ar-can-zass.
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#16078
01/26/2001 5:21 PM
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Did you know that during the Cold War, people were worried about nukular weapons? And we once bought a house with help from our realitor. [sigh]
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