|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,891
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,891 |
I've been trying to figure out a way to explain how I pronounce gestion, but there just isn't an English equivalent to the initial G.
Have you seen the movie Gigi? The way Maurice Chevalier pronounces Gigi with the Gs being soft. That is how the initial G is pronounced.
G - like Gigi,
es - like the ess in "less"
ti - tee
on - like the on in "only."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290 |
It's called a voiced post-alveolar fricative /zh/. It's more common in French than in English. Like the second g in garage or the z in azure for some, but not all speakers. Best is a /zh/ like Faldo. Or use SAMPA /Z/ or Unicode ( IPA) /ʒ/. Some use a z with a haček or caron /ž/. I see that many of the Unicode symbols no longer work with the new forum software.
Last edited by zmjezhd; 04/23/06 01:12 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,891
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,891 |
>>>voiced post-alveolar fricative Wow zmj. I know exactly what they are saying when I read the article, but I admit that I'll never be able to remember the codes and letter representations to describe that again. I think I'll stick with Maurice Chevalier's spoken example. 
Last edited by belMarduk; 04/23/06 01:25 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290 |
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,027
old hand
|
|
OP
old hand
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,027 |
It'll be interesting to hear more about how you've encountered it
Not for the first time, I "extrapolated" from French, then looked it up in the OED. It is interesting to realize that this word, contrary to its derivatives, apparently suffered "extinction", driven out by management.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
|
|
veteran
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529 |
Quote:
It'll be interesting to hear more about how you've encountered it
Not for the first time, I "extrapolated" from French, then looked it up in the OED. It is interesting to realize that this word, contrary to its derivatives, apparently suffered "extinction", driven out by management.
Yeah, today's management calls this mass extinction of french words - verbal downsizing; this process goes on irrevocably and sublimatively.
Sorta like a bloodless ethnic cleansing 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,788
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,788 |
I think I'll stick with Maurice Chevalier's spoken example.
"Sank Heaven for leetel gehrls ..."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,891
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,891 |
Now, now, you know he wouldn't have said heaven...more like heh-von I loved his duet with Hermione Gingold in that movie. They sang "I remember it well", he with roguish heart and she, chiding smilingly with fondness. They played it well.
|
|
|
|
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,651
Members9,187
| |
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
|
|
|
0 members (),
792
guests, and
3
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
