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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread A Welsh word question #156624 03/05/06 01:15 AM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 35 Compost heap Stag_Beetle OP newbie OP Stag_Beetle newbie Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 35 Compost heap On a CBC Radio documentary about James Joyce, a (slightly drunk) transgender travel writer by the name of Jan Morris describes a Welsh word which she pronounces something like "HAIR-rite" : Quote: We have a word in Welch “HAIR-rite” ... I don’t know if you know about it. Obstensibly it means a sort of nostalgia really... but it’s come to mean more than that... it’s a longing... but it’s a longing for something we don’t... we can’t analyse... we can’t define... and it’s more than nostalgia because it’s a longing for the past but it’s also a longing for the future... the future in any sense... maybe it’s death... maybe it’s a death-wish... [laughs] I don’t know... but it’s a longing for something over there... out there... that we can’t quite place... and I feel that about Trieste... this city always... it has been in a limbo, as we say... ah, for years... now it may be getting out of it... but it always seems to me to be on the brink of something big... something is gonna happen next year... next generation... next century... wow... it’s going to be there and as it was in the past it has been one of the great sea ports.... Can anyone Welch person confirm this definition and tell me the correct spelling? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: A Welsh word question #156625 03/05/06 01:53 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass This land of song will keep a welcome And with a love that never fails We'll kiss away each hour of hiraeth When you come home again to Wales We'll keep a welcome, Shirley Bassey sounds a bit like the Portugese word, saudade: "The Portugese have a word saudade that means yearning or longing but, more than that, describes the mixture of feelings that swim in the heart... best described through example, what a man feels at his daughter's wedding." - Dan Rodricks, Baltimore Evening Sun Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Hiraeth! #156626 03/05/06 09:19 AM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 35 Compost heap Stag_Beetle OP newbie OP Stag_Beetle newbie Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 35 Compost heap Great! Thanks a lot! Was it Rushdie who said if you want to understand a culture, look at the words in its language that cannot be adequately translated? Like duende in Spanish, and sarcasm is British English. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,915 Posts229,917 Members9,197 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Bill_L, achz, MAGNVSTALSMA, Burlyfish, Renegade98 9,197 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 members (), 819 guests, and 3 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 33 A C Bowden 27 LukeJavan8 4 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 10,910 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,948 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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