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#156459 03/03/2006 9:08 PM
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What's an (is there an) antonym for celebrity, both person and state, aside from the obvious possibilities like non-famous person and obscurity?

For context, Edgar Allan Poe writes:

Mr. Hawthorne, the author of Twice-Told Tales is scarcely recognized by the press or by the public, and when noticed at all, is noticed merely to be damned by faint praise. [M]y own opinion of him is that although [...] he is fairly to be charged with mannerism, treating all subjects in a similar tone of dreamy innuendo, yet [...] he evinces extraordinary genius, having no rival [...] in America [...] That this opinion [...] is a spoken and not a written one, is referable to the facts, first, that Mr. Hawthorne is a poor man, and, secondly, that he is not an ubiquitous quack.

And the heading for this excerpt: Poe imputes Hawthorne’s [insert term for lack of celebrity] to ...

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Plebrity?

Mittyriety?

My guess is there is no word for that concept.


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it seems as though there just aren't as many nouns for labeling a nobody (although there are adjs. aplenty):
A totally insignificant person: nonentity, obscurity, cipher, nebbish, nobody, nothing; mediocrity, insignificancy, man in the street. [Roget]

"an O without a figure" - Shakespeare

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Thank you for the suggestions.

How does "an O without a figure" mean unfamous?

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When the Fool in Lear says "thou art an O without a figure," he means the numeral zero. This is echoed in the remainder of the line when he repeats the thought by saying "thou art nothing."

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Plebrity?

Mittyriety?

My guess is there is no word for that concept.




Hmm. I guess you're right.

By the way, why is your avatar a tractor pulling a harrow? Just curious.

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It's a pun on my name. I leave it for you to figure out. Hint. Not a harrow.


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To turn over and spread out (grass, hay, or straw) to dry or for bedding Remington.

I see.

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non-entity?

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non-entity?




juan! you've just mantled Roget!!

- joe (how is that?) cool

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Getting closer.

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obscurity noun 1 the novel plots Carlotta’s rise from obscurity to stardom insignificance, inconspicuousness, unimportance, anonymity; limbo, twilight, oblivion. ANTONYM: fame.

New Oxford American Dictionary İ





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> juan! you've just mantled Roget!!

I never said a thing.


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I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us -- don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know.


How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!

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What's an (is there an) antonym for celebrity?




Everybody else?

I don't think there is one, because it is a term used for distinguishing an uncommon condition from an almost universal one. It's kind of like asking: "What is the opposite of a twin?" Non-twin? There's no polar opposite.

But I've often wondered why there's not an adjectival form of celebrity. How about:
"sell-ah-BRI-tik" ?

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celebritous = 1080 Google hits

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Sure. But celebritic is better.

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deleted as inconsequential

Last edited by TEd Remington; 03/06/2006 9:42 AM.

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But I've often wondered why there's not an adjectival form of celebrity.




There is: celebrated.

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... as in the jumping frog in the Twain story.

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Some seem to think it's "notorious"... does anyone have a first edition?

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But I've often wondered why there's not an adjectival form of celebrity.
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There is: celebrated.







The difference between the adjectival form of a word and an adjective for a word was clear enough for the rest of the posters. I guess I won't pay any attention to one quibbler's facetiae.

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> The difference between the adjectival form of a word and an adjective for a word was clear enough for the rest of the posters. I guess I won't pay any attention to one quibbler's facetiae.

and the rest of the posters are thus supposed to conclude we're dealing with yet another tedious vituperative little sock-puppet [yawn]

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Here's a lingual reasoning test.

Which of the following two sentences is a better example of vituperativeness?

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1. The difference between the adjectival form of a word and an adjective for a word was clear enough for the rest of the posters. I guess I won't pay any attention to one quibbler's facetiae.




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2. and the rest of the posters are thus supposed to conclude we're dealing with yet another tedious vituperative little sock-puppet [yawn]




Oh, by the way maverick, don't bother to answer this question. You've already failed. But here's your homework:

facetiae: (archaic) humorous or witty sayings.
quibble: (archaic) play on words.

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Damn. Now that's a burn!

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Poysonally, I think "obscurity" is about as close as you're going to find.

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Seeing the title of the post, my first thought was infamy, but all the other posters seem to be going for un-famous rather than un-popular or "un-well-liked".

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I smell a troll around here somewhere. Do you smell a troll? I certainly definitely smell a troll.

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I smell a troll around here somewhere. Do you smell a troll? I certainly definitely smell a troll.




We'll cross that bridge eventually, Fr Steve. I'm sure he's driving a Toyota, though: Troll is in a Cressida.


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Take the lingual reasoning test, then decide.

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Take the lingual reasoning test, then decide.




If you can't lick 'em, join 'em?


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