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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Birds of a feather #156081 02/24/2006 3:23 AM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 At the request of a good friend on another board I relay this for your views... Question: Which sounds best? Which sounds best? single choice One swallow does not a Spring make One sparrow does not a Spring make One swallow does not a Summer make One sparrow does not a Summer make Another variant (define) Votes accepted starting: 02/24/2006 4:20 AM You must vote before you can view the results of this poll. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156082 02/24/2006 3:41 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass I think swallow:summer is the more allusive literary combo; but this is the more evocative expression for me: one robin does not a winter end. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156083 02/28/2006 3:50 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta One swallow doesn't make a summer is the version I'm familiar with. A quick google, however, traces it back to Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics: [16] Moreover, to be happy takes a complete lifetime; for one swallow does not make spring, nor does one fine day; and similarly one day or a brief period of happinessdoes not make a man supremely blessed5 and happy. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Aristot.+Nic.+Eth.+1098a+1 I notice this translation: http://www.mikrosapoplous.gr/aristotle/nicom1a.htm#I7 says But we must add 'in a complete life.' For one swallow does not make a summer, nor does one day; and so too one day, or a short time, does not make a man blessed and happy. But the LSJ, is quite adamant that 'ear' means spring. http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z4E8217BC. Of course, the difference between spring and summer may reflect the difference between the English and Greek climates. Incidentally, how does one view the results of the poll? I voted but still can't see them. Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156084 02/28/2006 12:33 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 Thanks for that clarity, Bing. hm, can't understand why the poll doesn't show for you - try again? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156085 02/28/2006 4:52 PM Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 389 Rhode Island, USA Owlbow enthusiast Owlbow enthusiast Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 389 Rhode Island, USA I choose the third, but what I'm waiting for is TEd to say something about springs and swallows. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156086 02/28/2006 5:02 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont > springs and swallows. well... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156087 03/01/2006 8:58 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 427 Spain Marianna addict Marianna addict Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 427 Spain It's swallows and summer for me too. We say the exact same thing in Spanish. And sparrows are year-round dwellers where I live. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Birds of a feather #156088 03/01/2006 10:42 PM Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,529 Aladamnbama the most watered s... themilum veteran themilum veteran Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,529 Aladamnbama the most watered s... When the swallows/ come baaaack to Capastrano/ this summer That's the day/ my true loooove/ returns to me/ uh, this summer. Hey, the polling aparatus works and this time the pollees are right! I think. We juke a paralell rendering in 'de hood; we jive... "One monkey don't stop no show" Dig? Last edited by themilum; 03/01/2006 10:52 PM. 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