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a bit different from what happens in conversation all the time
 Cuz, online, there's a delusion that the person at your keyboard is in control. I've never been on a forum / email list where threads didn't go off topic, ever.
 
 Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Quote:
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 Yeah, thanks, Bishop Berkeley!
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Fr Steve, I want to make it clear that I'm not kvetching; I think it's quite normal that threads should digress! Just sayin' that this one takes the cake -- maybe because there were so many parts of it I was interested in and had commments for that I became easily confused.     |  |  |  
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Unraveling:
 Is that when you listen to oreloB?
 
 Actually, I was just thinking about that pair of words the other night and wondering if there were similar words which had the appearance of being opposite one another but were actually synonyms, or if ravel/unravel is unique.
 
 I know, I know.  It's probably a YART, but there's also new people who may not have been privy to any such conversation.
 
 Lastly, is there a term for such pairs of words?
 
 But I digress.
 
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1. synonyms for future reference:  swerve, depart, deviate, digress, diverge, stray, veer - These verbs mean to turn away from a straight or prescribed course: a gaze that never swerved; won't depart from family traditions; deviated from the original plan; digressed from the main topic ; opinions that diverged; strays from the truth; a conversation that veered away from sensitive issues. [AHD] 2. pairwise(!?) words ravel : unravel flammable : inflammable regardless : irregardless    loosen : unloosen  generally, affixing in- or un- or dis- in the completely  sense makes them stronger than the original; e.g., annul and disannul.
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Shame on you Faldage, you play. The isolated term "not-optional" has no negative relationship  to the sentence construction..."that is not an option". Mind your semantics. We have people here who think you are the Queen (so to speak) of the King's English).    |  |  |  
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..but one does run out of room in the subject box. and besides, who amongst us doesn't irregularly read the subject?!
 BTW, I should have noted that the *original sense of unravel was disentangle.
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Actually, I would say loosen, flammable, and regardless, but for some unknown reason I would use unravel and not ravel.  Even though the bard used ravel IIRC.  I can't hink of a situation where I would use unloosen, inflamabble, or (especially) irregardless, the latter being a word that always stimulates my gag reflex. 
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Dear Anna ~
 Didn't think you were kvetching.  We have kvetchers.  You are not a kvetcher.
 
 The Old Padre
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