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>Max down below, who must have taken methemilum off his "ignore" list not necessarily; max was replying to maverick, who was replying to Faldage -- this is the flaw in the ignore-ant. and, "the sented gulf wind"? what's the postage on that, then?! 
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what's the postage on that, then?!
Twice thirty-seven cents, if you're a hoarder.
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Insel,you can still get mail thro with 37Cents? my post office started charging 39 cents more than a week ago..
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Dang. I left out the sea in "s cented" and I'm still on jmax's "ignore" list. Dang.  Oh well, at least I'm still me. 
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Insel,you can still get mail thro with 37Cents? my post office started charging 39 cents more than a week ago..
Nope, that's why it's 2x37, if you don't have time to get to the post office and buy two cent stamps.
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The word or idiom I forgot is used to describe things, particularly rules and functions that are "sacred ground", and people should never mention or consider to change/revoke them.
Going way back to the beginning, questioning the thing you're trying to describe sounds like sacrilege. Does looking at it backwards like this help any?
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Well, basic rules of society, maybe?
MORES?
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No, Milum, I apparently do not get it. But what you need to do is get a life. What makes you think that anyone appreciates your coming in here and denigrating people, foisting your pseudo-intellectualism off on people who merely want to communicate with one another in a meaningful manner and pissing people off?
I'm still trying to figure out if you were born this way or if your parents raised you to be rude, inconsiderate, overbearing, and most of all obnoxious.
Just curious, does Ted speak for this group?
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where did you get that quote, Milum?
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The quote "Don't go away mad, just go away" was the title in bold of the latest personal message that mister Ted sent me earlier today. You know, the one I posted here.
Funny fellow, that Ted.
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And now thoroughly pissed off. That is a serious breach of netiquette there, Milo.
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Not to mention, you misquoted me. Have you no shame?
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quoting personal messages is not cool. bad form.
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Quoting personal messages is not cool, bad form.
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Quoting personal messages is not cool, bad form.
That is a serious breach of netiquette there, Milo.
END QUOTE
Sending nasty personal messages is not cool, bad form.
That is a serious breach of etiquette there, TEd Remington.
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Milo:
Why don't you post the entire exchange of messages? You have my permission to do post the messages I sent you. The messages you sent to me are yours to reveal if you choose to do so.
Personally I don't think you have the intestinal fortitude to post the whole exchange, since a complete airing of them would reveal you to the board perhaps a bit more than you really would want.
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Quoting personal messages is not cool, bad form.
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Sending nasty personal messages is not cool, bad form.
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The quote "Don't go away mad, just go away" was the title in bold of the latest personal message that mister Ted sent me earlier today. You know, the one I posted here.
Funny fellow, that Ted.
Milum:
I'll make you a little wager. The loser has to agree to stay away from this board forever.
I say you misquoted me. You say you quoted me directly and correctly.
Want to bet? Loser agrees to leave AWAD talk board forever.
You game?
Huh?
Huh?
I'm waiting.
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I evidently blinked - can I ask what the hell this storm in a tea cup is all about?
Meanwhile, can I say clearly that for my part one of the charms of this place resides in the diversity of people who post here. I don't expect to agree with everyone - that would be boring and dull. Neither do I expect to always feel happy at what others choose to post. But come on, guys, what is this apart from a pissing contest?
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Now here's a happy thought. Why don't you Ted, and you etaoin, and you Elizabeth Creith, and especially you, Father Steve, put me on "ignore".
Problem solved.
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Logwood, Please don't be afraid to ask another question or make another comment. I don't know if you got the answer you wanted, but the rest of this is NOT YOUR FAULT.
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The problem is solved when you go away. When you bully new people you do your worst to destroy this community. We will not tolerate your meanness by ignoring it.
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Well, Milo, I enjoy your posts about birds but once again, you've proved yourself a troublemaker. It is the height of trollness to create a sock puppet to second what you say. I know you're a pain in the ass, and you apparently enjoy that role, but I thought better of you. 
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Well anastrophic, you and your jomama are much too wily to not know what to do. It's a two step method, (1) simply mash the button that says "themilum ignore", and (2) your life will be free of your troublemaker.
And dear Betsy, if this board is objective, that is your only choice.
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It's a difficult concept for some people to understand, but it boils down to a feeling for the group and not just for themselves as individuals. It's not about who can see your posts, it's about the tenor of the group.
I think it's a reasonable thing to want to have a pleasant group with people who are respectful to each other.
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"My employer disagrees with everything I say, think, feel, do, or plan to do."
He probably knows that the "tenor" of any group is only incidental to that which is real.
What might be important to him is your silly assumption that slogans and vogue thoughts manifest reality.
That is, of course, bullspit.
Truth is, obviously, independent of any vote.
What, you wanna be popular?
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I thought I was the tenor in this group?
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You were, etaoin, until you sold your soul to the soprano.
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you do know me, milo...
(though I tend to prefer altos...)
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"What might be important to him is your silly assumption that slogans and vogue thoughts manifest reality."
That might be important to him if it were true.
Some people demand respect, but refuse to give. They are eager to give offense and to take it. They cherish highly their presumed right to be obnoxious with impunity.
That is reality.
There are other people who like to get along. They do not waste others' time. They respect other people. They want to develop a community of pleasant conversation where people can learn, discuss and argue.
That is also reality.
Respect is not a vogue notion.
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Respect is not a vogue notion...
There are other people who like to get along. They do not waste others' time. They respect other people. They want to develop a community of pleasant conversation where people can learn, discuss and argue.
Really? Respect is exactly a vogue notion when it is bestowed by design. Respect happens, you don't give it, it just is.
Did you miss the under-current theme when you first saw "No time for Sargents"?
Did you fall asleep when you first heard the Richard Strauss tonepoem, "Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks".
The point is this...
The poorest among us
Demand status quo
- And rightly so
As they have the status
And you have the hoe.
I hope I haven't wasted "others'" time.
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>Did you miss the under-current theme when you first saw "No time for Sargents"?
An art criticism course perhaps?
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"Respect is exactly a vogue notion when it is bestowed by design."
Respect is not a vogue notion. I don't know how to state it any clearer than that. Respect for innocent bystanders, respect for those we do not know, respect for other people as individuals. People who do not act respectfully to others should not be surprised when they are treated disrespectfully.
"Respect happens, you don't give it, it just is. "
One can be respectful even if one doesn't feel respectful, if for no other reason, to maintain an atmosphere in which people would actually like to communicate.
One can always contrive reasons for being disrespectful. If one just "doesn't feel" respect, then one cannot be shocked when one is disliked.
I know a lot of smart people. Some of them take the view that respect and manners are utterly superfluous. These fellows are very eager to be critical of others - "I'm just being honest," the say. But any time they themselves are criticized, they take it deeply personally.
I do not get the point of your poem. I do not come to this board for status. I do not care what the people on this board think of me. If there are people on this board who enjoy each other's company outside the net, I'm happy for them and not envious - but for myself, I have plenty of things to keep me busy and I don't need any more. I enjoy reading the various fora on which I participate, but they are a very small part of my life and I would not feel threatened or left out if I am not everyone's favorite person. If the worst thing that happens to me in a day is that I get banned from a group, I would count it as a very good day.
In the very few years that I've participated on this forum, I have blasted one person outright - and that very recently. I regret wasting my time. I have refrained in the other cases for several reasons:
1. After 25 years on the net, I have at least a vague notion of the futility of it all. There is a lot I could be doing instead of arguing with someone.
2. I almost never understand how the blasted arguments get started - probably because I only read a very few threads. By the time I get wind of a disagreement, it sounds like he-said-she-said to me and my life is sufficiently full that I'm never inclined to spend time to investigate the circumstances.
3. I don't like the idea of 20 guys beating up on someone, even when that someone is obviously a horse's ass.
4. I don't want to be part of any clique or de facto governing body, even on fora I helped to create.
5. I don't need the drama.
OTOH, there are some people who love drama. They crave it. They create it ex nihilo. If they are not the centers of attention, they are constitutionally obliged to instigate it.
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ex nihilo ...annihilate means nothing left...nil-->nothing...
If ex means from, then does ex nihilo mean from, or out of, nothing?
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Fallible, the simple meaning of my little poem is that all dynamic social institutions eventually evolve into organizations crafted by effete insiders who prevent any further evolution of raison d'etre. Instead they direct the resourses of the organization towards the preservation and enhancement of themselves.
This, I'm sure you'll agree, is a universal.
And, I agree with your five points completely.
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This, I'm sure you'll agree, is a universal.
Say, themilum? Whenever I see a formulation such as this I tend to disagree - takes me right back to HS debate days.
HTH.
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i universal statements like themilum's while they might be generally true, are never universally true. but i didn't want to prolong an already too long dispute. do you want the end it or prolong it, snoot?
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