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WW has just finished its regular housekeeping and now it won't let me back in unless I register my domain name, but for the life of me I don't know what they want. For no matter what I enter in this block they don't accept it This is the first time I've encountered the term, and if the friendly WS'er should happen to know, how long has it been around; can I assume it's a neologism I collect them Of course I immediately went to Wikipedia, where I got a half dozen different definitions, none of which rang a bell and being written with dozens of obscure abbreviations in Bill Gates Language, none did I entirely understand Whatever a domain name is, one is expected to have as many of 200 of them, adding to my perplexity about what they might be. I don't have 200 of anything. I'm somewhat inexperienced in this realm, however, having only a journ and not an engineering degree and only about 40 years in electronics and tech writing, 17 years experience with DOS (I think it was called), Windows, Word, etc Somewhere I have a password; (either zsQtyT or HBgexi) I know what a domain is. I know what a word is, and a nickname. And a URL, (though that means different things to different people) I know what an address is (isn't it part of a URL?). But evidently I don't know what a domain name is If I have 200 of them, is there somewhere I can go on the Internet to see them all or does it entail the application of a difficult algorithm yet unwritten Forgive an old, helpless non-geek. But if I have 200 of them, could someone guess what mine is most likely to be I am dalehileman, DAle Hileman (Without my permission for some reason Bill Gates often insists on capitalizing the A; does that make it a 'domain name"?) DaleHileman, Dale Hileman, dalehileman@verizon.net (If this is a complex issue, and if you have the patience, please write me) But I don't know what my domain name is. Don't respond all at once, and don't use a lot of technical language because I have only about 15-20 years left A note to Jackie and to Admin or whatever you call yourself: If you should some day decide to revamp WS, please do it gradually and not all at once Yet thank you for WS--easy for the inexpert to use and friendly to the ignorant (me)--and thanks to everybody for such patient past and present participation
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Eta: Sorry, terrible habit http://www.wordwizard.com/ 'cause I assume everybody uses it and so it comes kinda automatically like leaving off the period
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it looks like the owners of wordwizard have not yet renewed their domain name, and/or website. in other words, for now they are defunct.
unless you have your own website, you don't have a domain name, much less 200 of them.
domain name is another term of URL, basically.
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I believe the owner/host of WW needs to reregister thier domain name with NETSOL (or whomever) as NETSOL responds with:
"This domain name expired on 01/09/2006 and is pending renewal or deletion."
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in other words, dalehileman, it's not your problem.
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oh, and dale. you might want to remove your passwords up there. just saying you have them is probably sufficient in this case.
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Dale,
I wonder if, for the sake of good housekeeping, you would consider confining your technical queries to a single topic. This one, "Help Me," would seem fitting. Thanks kindly.
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A domain name is the part of a URL with a (usually) "www." in it, and a ".com", a ".net", etc. in it. For example, the domain name for AWADtalk is "wordsmith.org". It is basically a human-readable way to name a single computer on the inernet. The other way is an IP address which is four numbers (between 0 and 255, and called "octets") separated by periods, e.g., "127.0.0.1". There are special computers (or hosts) on the Internet called Domain Name Servers (DNS) that have databases of domain names mapped to IP addresses. Whenever you type in a URL, the domain name part is resolved by your browser software, using a DNS, into an IP address, so that your computer and other computer can swap data. Without them your computer could not send or receive data over the Net / Web. So, as eta said, it's not your problem.
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thanks, z, for that very wel.com explanation.
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Thanks all. How do you suppose WW's admin could have allowed theirs to lapse
Eta: Surely you don't think I'd reveal my actual passwords
Insel: Sorry. Are you the Admin for WS? I had thought I was being pretty specific about what was to be discussed, but I guess I have a tendency to stray afield
My most abject apologies to all who misinterpret my feeble attempts at humor
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Edited to remark that I finally figured out what WW's "domain name" aka URL page is all about. While WW's existing one is lapsing, they wish to change it, possibly for the sake of variety. They must be asking participants to offer suggestions--up to 200 per contributor
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dale: you're the old, helpless non-geek.  where did you find the page about the 200 suggestions? I don't see it, but I'm not a WW member. I think Insel's idea was to put all your board requests/questions into a single topic, rather than start a new topic for each one.
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eta: Click on "Renew Now." Possibly not available to non-member
About topic, if it's no trouble can you give me an example of what I did wrong so I can avoid doing it in the future
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from the WW domain name renewal page: Quote:
If you are the current registrant for this domain name*
though you are a member at WW, you are not the current registrant for that domain name. the owners and operators of WW are. they have let the registration for the domain name "wordwizard.com" expire.
as far as a topic is concerned, dale, you didn't do anything wrong, insel's suggestion was to put (from now on) your technical questions and suggestions about this board's operation into one topic.
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ETa: Again thank you for your patience, but I still don't quite understand the suggestion about requests, housekeeping, operations, topics, technical queries, and questions. If I understood I would certainly try to comply, but it would help if I could be provided an example or two of how I have erred
Do you mean that I should consolidate every suggestion or question into a single thread under a single Subject heading, under a single General Topic
Then every time I'd like to present a suggestion, instead of starting a new thread, tediously search through the Active Topics and the Archives until I find one where it seems to belong? then append a followup to this older thread, bumping it back up? In other sites, you can't do that because the archive doesn't bump; instead, unless one's last suggestion is still among the Active Topics, one has to start a new thread
Being an old, helpless non-geek I didn't realize the rules about what goes where were so rigid; but once I understand the exact protocol in detail, I will surely attempt to comply in spite of my advanced age
Incidentally, where to place one's constructive thoughts is often problematical. Since many users typically have occasional suggestions, WW, for instance, has a General Topic called (as I recall) "Suggestions and comments", which, if I'm not being too forward, seems like a good idea
Thus I'm not exactly sure, for instance, where WS protocol would have me situate the foregoing comment/suggestion, though it seemed appropriate right there because it appears to fit the thread
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ETa: Again thank you for your patience, but I still don't quite understand the suggestion about requests, housekeeping, operations, topics, technical queries, and questions. If I understood I would certainly try to comply, but it would help if I could be provided an example or two of how I have erred
Do you mean that I should consolidate every suggestion or question into a single thread under a single Subject heading, under a single General Topic
yes, if the suggestion or question is about the operation of the board.
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Then every time I'd like to present a suggestion, instead of starting a new thread, tediously search through the Active Topics and the Archives until I find one where it seems to belong? then append a followup to this older thread, bumping it back up? In other sites, you can't do that because the archive doesn't bump; instead, unless one's last suggestion is still among the Active Topics, one has to start a new thread
well, yes. though I doubt it would have gone that far. besides, you will see, when in a category, that there are many pages to reach back to, not some lost archive.
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Being an old, helpless non-geek I didn't realize the rules about what goes where were so rigid; but once I understand the exact protocol in detail, I will surely attempt to comply in spite of my advanced age
ain't no rules. people are making suggestions about where to post.
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Incidentally, where to place one's constructive thoughts is often problematical. Since many users typically have occasional suggestions, WW, for instance, has a General Topic called (as I recall) "Suggestions and comments", which, if I'm not being too forward, seems like a good idea
it is a good idea. Jackie might be able to "Sticky" such a topic, saving digging through past pages. might be best in Information and Announcements?
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protocol? we don't need no steenkin' protocol.
dale, you're doing fine. it's just that others have been here for quite a while and saw no need for much change. not to say there shouldn't be any change, but.
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dh, you are certainly correct when you say there is no General Topic here for posting Suggestions, Comments (or Bug Reports).
I believe this is by design, as there is no one here to field suggestions, comments or bug reports -- which fact has been patiently explained to you to some extent. In the past, there have been threads started along these lines; e.g., immediately after the switch to the new forum software we got some response to a couple of threads labeled 'bug reports' -- this response lasted for 2 or 3 hours. <hyperbole, it must have been a couple of days>
So I think the real issue is that these sorts of comments, mixed in with the general postings, is evident only to those who tend to read everything and thus becomes an irritant. You have more chance of getting some response, slim as it is, starting a new thread in I&A with a clear label as to what the problem or suggestion is.
Or, as has been suggested elsewhere, email the boss guy.
These inline comments, I say again, are (at best) just preaching to the choir.
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Eta Tsu: Your infinite patience and tact are rare and heartwarming. I have been threatened or banned from other sites for less impertinent threads
AWAD is remarkably tolerant of its contributors' foibles. In most other such sites there is hard core who, if they don't agree with your punctuation, style, or impertinence will shred your soul and tear you limb from limb, if not banish you from participation
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There is a hard care 'who' here.. we just very nice, and mostly tolerant. we are eclectic and the general rule of the day is anarchy and chaos*. (or as its more often express, We don't need now stinkin rules.)
we have a low tolerance for cruelty.
We crave wit, (and settle for puns!)
we do threaten (mostly along the line of lashes with a wet noodle) but we are more likely to award you points. (not that the point have any use... but you can collect them if you like!)
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Helen: Yes I accept and thank you. Points, as on "Whose line is it anyway"
Although I'm presently being singled out for expressing two different ideas in a single thread, a terrible habit I'm trying desperately to kick
Oops, should we have begun a new thread
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>Although I'm presently being singled out for expressing two different ideas in a single thread
Nope. What many (including me) would like you to do is keep all your comments on how the board works to a single thread.
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Anna: Thank you, I'm working on it. I made it a NY's resolution
Seriously
By the way, for those who voted for Bush, NY also stands for New Years
Oops I forgot, no politics
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Helen: Yes I accept and thank you. Points, as on "Whose line is it anyway"
Although I'm presently being singled out for expressing two different ideas in a single thread, a terrible habit I'm trying desperately to kick
Oops, should we have begun a new thread
Dale, Luv, listen. Nobody is singling you out for nothing. And nobody is singling you out for putting more than one do-hickey in a thread. A couple of us are just asking you to keep all you technical questions in one thread.
To put it another way, please don't open a new thread every time you have a new technical question. There's a lot of people here happy to try to help, as you can see. We're a friendly bunch. And you seem like a good egg.
It seems odd, even to me, that it should matter, this thing about keeping all your technical questions in one thread, and I can't give a great reason for it. Except that keeping all your technical questions in one thread is good housekeeping; and there ain't no housekeeper here. And all the saying so on Earth won't bring one. They're on strike. They disdain this place. The only clue where they've gone is a sign from management what says 'there ain't no management.'
So, since there ain't no housekeeper, and there ain't no management, since neither Anu nor nobody else is around to sweep up after us and do the dishes, well, everyone's just got to do for themselves. And since everyone's got to, it's only right and proper that all of us do.
So, as to this keeping all your technical questions in a single thread, and not multiplying them like stars in the sky or tables in an elementary school math class, here are a few thoughts:
Keeping all your technical questions in one thread is good house keeping.
Keeping all your technical questions in one thread is good citizenship
Keeping all your technical questions in one thread is neighborly
Keeping all your technical questions in one thread is good companionship
Keeping all your technical questions in one thread is nice; and
Keeping all your technical questions in one thread is just a darned good thing to do.
Thanks, kind thoughts, and sweet memories of Southern California
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A scout keeps good house.
A scout is a good citizen.
A scout is neighbourly.
A scout is a good companion.
A scout is nice.
A scout does darned good things.
A scout keeps all his technical questions in one thread.
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