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#152639 12/24/2005 1:04 AM
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Evidently obs term originally having to do with the weight of mdse though exact meanings are hard to pin down because it isn't found in many dictionaries. A quick googling suggests A later use, in reference to various forms of radiation, revealing connections to lasers, the sun, cameras, and stage lighting; but submerged in jargon that I can't fathom, eg:

Only High End Systems offersthe lighting professional a choice of zoom ranges....and 2:1 zoom fixtures for longerthrow or ~ applications where output is king and ultra wide zoomrange is not critical--www.tlsinc.com/pdfs/nlaprmay03.pdf

I was looking for an effects light for ~, gobo projection and those types of things, but the lack of fans in the VL1000 units was key for me--www.allstar-show.com/Epcor%20Centre_VL2500.htm

Twenty-something MAC 500s were scattered on the deck, on the upstage truss and a few on the downstage to provide ~, scans and effects lighting--www.totalproductionus.com/SiteFiles/oct_Dodd_Tech.htm


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it would make it easier if you included a relevant quote in your post, rather than us having to dig through the links to find the usage.

without reading any of the links, my guess would be a "hip" usage, talking about the relative light strength. "massive beamage, dude."

that usage might have then become normal.


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[f. beam n.1 + -age.]
A deduction for loss of weight by evaporation in cooling, made in weighing the dressed carcass of a beast.
1902 in Webster Suppl.

OED2

In other words, referring to the effect of a weight variation as recorded on a beam (early form of balance or scales).

The later uses you found were extrapolating from ‘a beam of light’.

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> The later uses you found were extrapolating from ‘a beam of light’.

dude, are you, like, scabbing on my toot?


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#152643 12/24/2005 1:17 AM
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>>[f. beam n.1 + -age.]
A deduction for loss of weight by evaporation in cooling, made in weighing the dressed carcass of a beast.
1902 in Webster Suppl.

OED2<<

I absolutely love this

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Sorry for any [gas]mantle, dude - I was checking the dictionary as you posted!

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'jes testing out my hippage...


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hip hop ma man


gobo
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1930 Sel. Gloss. Motion Pict. Techn. (Acad. Motion Pict., Hollywood) 15/2 Gobo, portable wall covered with sound-absorbing material. 1936 Words Oct. 6/2 A ‘gobo’ is a small black screen used to deflect light. 1970 T.V. Times (Austral.) 1 Apr. 8/3 A gobo is anything that goes between, e.g., the light and the set.
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This interested me, because in modern stage lighting parlance this is a completely unambiguous word that is not any of the above (at least exactly). It is a small screen that clips between the lamp and the lens to produce a shaping effect on the ‘beamage’ [sic]. For example, a delicately etched sheet of thin metal would produce the illusion of light falling through a cell’s bars, or sunlight dappling through tree leaves, or a cross of light on a scenery flat…

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I know gobo as you know gobo.


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then I know gobo, too

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Naaah. Youse guys is all wrong! It's simply a term for the various barreling times of good old Jim Beam's whisky. "The beamage on this bottle is only five years, while the good stuff is the one with a beamage of 12."

All seriousness aside, I found this at a site called Slangsite.com (Anyone seen this one before, seems to be loaded!)

beamage: The path that the laser of anything takes.
Example: Move that piece of paper from infront of the TV, it's in my beamage.


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For example, a delicately etched sheet of thin metal would produce the illusion of light falling through a cell’s bars, or sunlight dappling through tree leaves, or a cross of light on a scenery flat…

Funny, for me, coming from a film rather than stage background a gobo is more like a flag, for blocking off light, and a cookie (or coocoloris) is the one with holes in it to cast interesting shadows.


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Eta, those were quotes, the tilde (~) subbing for "beamage". Sorry for the confusion. I guess the practice is not so generaly known as I had supposed

PS: What does it mean to scab on one's toot (I collect slang)

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> film

Thanks for that nunc - interesting to find out these different outgrowths from a common stock! I see btw that the theatrical use seems to be understood in pretty much the same way both sides of the pond as my geek chorus indicated

TEd, I guess that use is analogous to cover:coverage, isn't it, in relation to the beam of light as previously mentioned? (and to answer your question, yes, I've sometimes looked things up at slangcity and get their newsletter)

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Quote:

Eta, those were quotes, the tilde (~) subbing for "beamage". Sorry for the confusion. I guess the practice is not so generaly known as I had supposed




ah, I have never seen that usage before.

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PS: What does it mean to scab on one's toot (I collect slang)




I just made it up.
scab - to denigrate
toot - what someone says (or writes) "toot my own horn"



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Ted: Yes, that's where I ran onto the word. But as you imply one can't take sites like SlangSite, Online Slang Dict, and UrbanDict too seriously because many of the entries are only local or regional; while sometimes the contributor's def is inaccurate or not well phrased

In further Googling I did however encounter two or three hits where a ref was made to lasers. Whether that particular usage was restricted to this particular form of radiation is questionable. Eta and Mav's conclusion that the term is nothing more than a synonym for coverage is probably accurate

Thus wouldn't "beamage" be a back formation

Any lighting experts in the crowd

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Yes, I've worked as a theatre lighting technician (amongst other crimes!).

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Did I read this thread too fast, and miss the mention of the nautical use of "beamage"? The widest part of a not-so-very-long-ago boat? As in "She's a bit broad in the beam," then metaphorically adapted to the description of real females, as in "She's a bit broad in the beam." Which is NOT meant to be a compliment, Bloody Mary notwithstanding.

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wofa, these phrases are all common to my ear apart from <beamage> itself - I have never heard anyone ask about 'the beamage' of a boat. Have you heard that used in this way?

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No, but that was what came to mind instantly when I saw the word. The light-beam uses sound to me like afterthoughts - "Isn't this a clever word to use to mean light output or transmission." Retronyms of the world, unite!

Edit: a quick Googol search shows only entries for beamage referring to lighting, or to weight of animal at point of sale, which we've already discussed above, plus one fanciful application to Scotty's final transporter trip...

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"Isn't this a clever word to use to mean light output or transmission."
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Yes it is, wofahulicodoc. So why does the "google" entry change your perceptions?

After all, you are the wofahulicodoc, and google is but a simple mindless counting machine.

Strange.

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"Isn't this a clever word to use to mean light output or transmission."
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Yes it is, wofahulicodoc. So why does the "google" entry change your perceptions?


No change in perception, just a description of the world as described by one counting machine, to be noted and filed.

After all, who ya gonna believe, me or some strange dictionary? [Scrabble-players' Lament]

On the other hand it would appear that my use of "beamage" is equally a retronym, though an obvious and appropriate one.

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For some reason, to my ear "beamage" to mean loss of weight or girth of vessel is elegant, and to mean throw of light, inelegant, though useful. A little too Simpsonesque, I guess.

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On the other hand it would appear that my use of "beamage" is equally a retronym, though an obvious and appropriate one.




So how are you defining "retronym"? Certainly not in its normally accepted meaning of a noun phrase with an adjective included for the purpose of distinguishing an old version of something which formerly needed no adjective from a newer version. E.g., analog watch.


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