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#151305 11/30/05 10:30 PM
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I know that adjectives that are derived from nouns are grammatically considered "denominal adjectives", however no dictionary I tried have given a result for "denominal"...

I know however that "nominal" means "relating to being a noun or name", and "de" is basically a prefix for "counter"... but I'm still perplexed about the lack of definition for a grammatical word. Input?

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Not a complete dic but.

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The suffix de- also means 'from'. Denominal means "derived from a noun" in this case. There's also: deadjectival nouns, deverbal nouns, and denominal verbs.


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> deadjectival nouns

wazza live one look like?

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I keep looking at deadjectival, wondering if it differs from livejectival, but I DO digress.

Just for grins, I looked up ordinary because, well, darned if I know why. Anway, ordinary is an adjective, and it is deadjectivated into the noun ordinary, as in "out of the ordinary." AH! I remember why I looked it up. For some reason the student common room at my alma mater was called the Ordinary. I doubt that I everaskedwhy, come to think of it. Anyone from George Mason University around? Do they still have a place called the Ordinary?

And I just verbed deadjectival!

Does that fit?


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wazza live one look like?

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A deadjectival verb would be albeo in Latin which means 'to be white' from albus 'white'. Not all languages can do de-X Y with what are called zero morphemes like English.


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Albus Dumbledore.

maybe doesn't this belong in the other thread?


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Albus Dumbledore.

Well, you can argue that substantives or adjectives came first in Latin, but I think folks probably talk about what color something was before they spoke of a color in the abstract.


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> deadjectival nouns

wazza live one look like?




Or either, if you watch the USn soap opera The Young and the Restless you might could find some examples.

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