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01/09/2001 11:05 AM
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What's the word for people who like to use long words? Thanks!
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01/09/2001 11:55 AM
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Welcome to the board, blackthorn. How about sesquepedalianophiles? 
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01/09/2001 2:07 PM
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01/09/2001 3:58 PM
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01/09/2001 4:10 PM
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one of the senses of sesquipedalian is "given to the use of long words"; wouldn't that suffice?
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01/09/2001 4:43 PM
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Circumlocution (talking around the issue) is a related affliction.
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01/09/2001 6:46 PM
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...wouldn't that suffice?
There goes tsuwm wielding Ockham's Razor again ['admiring glance' emoticon]
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01/09/2001 7:05 PM
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AnnaS remarked admiringly There goes tsuwm wielding Ockham's Razor again Never mind that the entire village of Ockham will now be hopelessly hirsute.  Sorry, I couldn't resist. I'm much more used to seeing Occam - Ockham makes me think of a stereotypical English village.
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01/09/2001 10:37 PM
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That's it! Thanks for jogging the memory to you and rhubarbcommando.
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01/10/2001 4:50 AM
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Occam is another spelling of Ockham. It's where William Occam, first wielder of the razor, came from.
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01/10/2001 5:13 AM
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Daß weiß ich schon, eigentlich.
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01/10/2001 8:54 AM
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'Das weiß ich eigentlich schon' bzw. 'Eigentlich weiß ich das schon' ....
Aber DAS hätte man eigentlich wissen müssen ;-)
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01/10/2001 9:39 AM
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'Das weiß ich eigentlich schon' bzw. 'Eigentlich weiß ich das schon' ....
Aber DAS hätte man eigentlich wissen müssen ;-)
Por favor. Si no prefiere hablar en Ingles, es possible hablar en Espanol, porque no ententendio nada Aleman! (no hablo Espanol hace muchos anos, lo siento Juan Maria por Espanol muy malo)!
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#15111
01/10/2001 11:09 AM
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Der Max hat's angestiftet (Max abetted me).
A friend of mine was recently in the States and while speaking to a friend in German, someone interrupted and told them it was rude to speak foreign languages in company (butting in on conversations, it seems is widely accepted)
... funny though, I always thought that's is how you learn and I must say, there are alot of very rude people here in Europe, all speaking multiple languages, willy-nilly!
So Juan Maria can/should pull out the Spanish at will :-)
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#15112
01/10/2001 12:59 PM
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Occam is another spelling of Ockham. It's where William Occam, first wielder of the razor, came from.
And of course William was the barber who shaved everyone in the village who didn't shave themself.
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01/10/2001 3:17 PM
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And of course William was the barber who shaved everyone in the village who didn't shave themself
So...Nicholas is really Emanuela, then? Boy--talk about guys and dolls!
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01/10/2001 5:04 PM
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We're all great users of Ockham's/Occam's razor - we're forever splitting hairs with it! 
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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#15115
01/10/2001 5:14 PM
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In reply to:
Der Max hat's angestiftet (Max abetted me).
A friend of mine was recently in the States and while speaking to a friend in German, someone interrupted and told them it was rude to speak foreign languages in company (butting in on conversations, it seems is widely accepted)
My little foray into German was inspired by another thread about overused words, such as "actually", "like", and, in German, "oder", "natürlich" and "grundsätzlich".
I just thought I would have a little fun and throw another overused English construction into the mix, while testing the waters to see if "eigentlich" is as abused as "actually." As for the execrable quality of my German, at least it's no worse than the quality of my English! The use of the present tense was deliberate. I hear "I know that already, actually" quite often, at least as often as "I knew that already" - bad English transformed into very bad German.
As to your friend being told that it was rude to use another language in the presence of those who don't speak it, I grew up being taught that also. However, I don't always agree. I think that, for example, if one had something important to say, and clarity of communication was necessary, then why not use one's mother tongue. I guess the suspicion is that if someone starts talking in a "foreign" tongue, that person must be saying something rude!
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01/10/2001 7:50 PM
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In reply to:
(butting in on conversations, it seems is widely accepted) as our young warrior lamented-
I am reminded of the line--"Please stop talking while I am trying to interupt!"
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01/11/2001 11:54 AM
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Max demurs: Daß weiß ich schon, eigentlich. Natürlich, but...
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#15118
01/11/2001 6:12 PM
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jmh wrote : Por favor. Si no prefiere hablar en Ingles, es possible hablar en Espanol, porque no ententendio nada Aleman! (no hablo Espanol hace muchos anos, lo siento Juan Maria por Espanol muy malo)!
Not worri. You’re spanish is prefect!.
Enjoy!
Now seriously, quite good, although I’m missing the ‘eñes’. Can you see a tilde over the n in the word “eñe”?.
I’m not sure if foreign computers can display this character.
Juan Maria.
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01/11/2001 6:18 PM
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#15120
01/11/2001 6:19 PM
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belligerentyouth wrote: I always thought that's is how you learn and I must say, there are alot of very rude people here in Europe, all speaking multiple languages, willy-nilly!
So Juan Maria can/should pull out the Spanish at will :-)
Speaking a language that cannot be understood by someone is as rude as you want it to be. You can speak ignoring completely or even scorning the foreign one or you can be as natural as possible and try to integrate or, at least, not exclude completely this person.
On the other hand is the willingness of the foreign to understand what is being said. I know people who get infuriated when, being in Barcelona or La Coruña, are addressed in Catalonian or Galician. Being a little patient and asking not to speak too quickly, a Spaniard can perfectly understand those languages. I’m sure that these same people would try harder, and understand most conversations, if they were in Italy or Portugal.
Juan Maria.
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01/11/2001 6:20 PM
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juanmaria demands: Enjoy!Uff Da!
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01/11/2001 6:22 PM
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When it's ano for año it's so much fun.
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01/11/2001 6:28 PM
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When it's ano for año it's so much fun.
This problem, which arises in written form in Spanish, also exists in spoken form in Italian, with exactly the same words involved. Ano in Italian = ano in Español, anno = año - and the difference in pronunciation between one N and two is subtle but noticeable. In my early days of Italian study I would tell people how old I was, without pronouncing both N's in anno, and boy was I the butt of some jokes.
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01/11/2001 7:35 PM
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Hyla comments: I would tell people how old I was, without pronouncing both N's in anno, and boy was I the butt of some jokes.
Was the idiom in Italian the same as in Spanish, "I have (e.g.,) 25 years"? That'd make it really funny.
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01/11/2001 7:45 PM
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Was the idiom in Italian the same as in Spanish, "I have (e.g.,) 25 years"? That'd make it really funny.
You got it. The standard reply was "poverino" - "poor guy," said in a tone of mock sympathy.
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01/11/2001 9:09 PM
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A former diplomatic colleague of mine was posted to Japan for a number of years. His wife speaks nearly flawless Japanese having lived in the country for a number of years and was a major asset to him. But she encountered some funny situations, mostly arising from the general xenophobia which Japanese tend to exhibit.
One day after they had moved into their new apartment in Shibuya-ku, the lady of the house went grocery shopping in the local shops. When she went into one shop, the proprietoress and a female customer began talking about her, in Japanese of course. "She's a bit fat". "She's got good clothes". "Don't like the way her hair is done". That kind of thing.
She asked for whatever it was she wanted in accentless and perfect Japanese. Dead silence for a moment. Then the proprietoress' forehead nearly smacked into the counter as she bowed, and the customer exited out of the door quickly, they were that embarrassed. Loss of face, you know ...
The long and short of it was that Dot never paid full price for anything in that shop again!
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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01/12/2001 7:45 AM
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>Not worri. You’re spanish is prefect!.
Kind, so you are, but. Have a good one!
[Sorry about the missing ñ. The only way I could think of doing it was to open Word, use "insert symbol" then paste. I think that there is an ALT-No I can use as it's not on my keyboard but I don't know the right number. I promise to look it up before I write ano not año!]
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01/12/2001 9:47 AM
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Now that everyone knows what kind of blunder can cause a mistyped 'ñ', There are the codes:
alt-164 ñ
alt-165 Ñ
El niño Juan Maria.
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01/12/2001 3:06 PM
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>Kind, so you are, but. Have a good one!
::shudder::
these things don't go unnoticed...
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01/12/2001 11:01 PM
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While chortling @ juanmaria's faux bad English & Jo's synthesis of threads*, I feel the urge to point out that the tilde on a Mac is OH SO MUCH easier to produce (option + n).
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*aka cross-stitch
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01/12/2001 11:23 PM
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>ron (the dark side) obvious
Is it only me, does anyone else get worried by the array of character that have taken over dear old tsuwm in the past few months? I'm starting to believe that Jackie was right all that time ago when she said, "Who are you and what have you done with tsuwm?" Can anyone be sure that these multiple personalities haven't tied him up and locked him in a dark, lonely basement somewhere? Maybe we could club together for AnnaStrophic (sound mind has she) to fly up/down/across to his lair and suss out if anything dodgy is going on. All this stuff about the "U" files could really be happening. It could start with a small thing, such as an inability to spell disestablishmentarianism, where could this all be going?
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01/13/2001 4:02 AM
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Dear Concerned of Hackney, I have been concerned also about the apparent changes in our long-time friend; especially since his post just above contained a not-so-veiled threat. Good thing you live out of arm's reach, my dear. I will certainly be happy to contribute to airfare for Anna to go suss the lad. On second thought, p'raps my donation should go towards a bodyguard. What tsay, tsuwm? If you see a mysterious stranger ducking into doorways, or feel as if you're being watched: who knows, it just might be our intrepid Anna! Not to make you feel paranoid or anything.
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01/13/2001 3:13 PM
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a mysterious stranger ducking into doorways...
Even worse, being stalked an addict by, but.
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01/13/2001 9:31 PM
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jo, you rantipole asterisk...
jackie,
Q: why is the sky blue?
A: there are a trillion dreams out there.
yours, with ugging and hugging,
-ron o. and joe f.
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01/14/2001 12:13 AM
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>rantipole ****, trillion, billion dreams
They say little girls are made of sugar and spice
and all things nice but I don't think so (Oh No!)
No I don't think so (Ah!)
They say little boys are made of slugs and snails
and puppy dogs' tails but I don't think so (Oh no!)
No I don't think so (Ah ha!)
© Neil Innes
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01/14/2001 12:25 AM
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Jo, here's a song that was written by John Charles Thomas and recorded by Stanley Holloway many moons ago. I wonder if you remember it? It may not have crossed the pond to the US of A. I loved it when I was a kid because it used language so cleverly:
THE GREEN-EYED DRAGON
Once upon a time lived a Fair Princess most beautiful and charming;
Her Father, the King, was a wicked old thing, with manners most alarming.
And always on the front door mat, a most ferocious Dragon sat,
Who made such a fearful shrieking noise that all you little girls and boys
Beware, take care, and creep upon tiptoe,
And hurry up the stairs, and say your prayers,
And tuck your head, your pretty curly head,
beneath the clothes, the clothes, the clothes.
The Dragon lived for years and years, and never got much thinner.
For lunch, he'd try a Policeman pie, a roast M.P. for dinner;
One brave man went 'round with an axe and tried to collect his income tax -
The Dragon smiled with fiendish glee, and sadly murmured 'R.I.P.'
Beware! Take Care! And creep upon tiptoe,
And hurry up the stairs, and say your prayers,
And tuck your head, your pretty curly head,
beneath the clothes, the clothes, the clothes.
The Dragon went down to the kitchen one day
Where the Fair Princess was baking;
He ate, by mistake, some rich plum cake
which the Fair Princess was making.
This homemade cake, he could not digest;
He moaned and he groaned, and at last went west -
And now his ghost, with bloodshot eyes
At midnight clanks his chains and cries:
Beware! Take care! And creep upon tiptoe,
And hurry up the stairs, and say your prayers,
And tuck your head, your pretty curly head,
Beneath the clothes, the clothes, the clothes. . . .
AAAAGH!
(This last was shouted (the 'aaagh!') while throwing one's hands above
one's head, and looming.)
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01/14/2001 12:31 AM
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>THE GREEN-EYED DRAGON
I love it!
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