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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147526 09/07/2005 5:29 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 427 Spain Marianna addict Marianna addict Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 427 Spain It may be too much to start anuvver syntactical fred right after Ullrich's, but at this moment when I can hardly see over the piles of exam scripts lying on my desk, the question arises. Do you see a difference between the following two sentences? A) "When I finish, I'll return the key." B) "When I have finished, I'll return the key." For me, these two are interchangeable, but some of my students claim that in A the person speaking has not yet started the activity, though they'll begin right away, whereas in B they have already started the activity. I think both sentences could be used in either of these two cases, with activity started or not. What do you think? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147527 09/07/2005 5:40 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City inselpeter Pooh-Bah inselpeter Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City It's the same thang as tsuwm asked about. Common parlance: interchangeable. Students: nix. As follows: One literally says that they'll return the key at the same time that they finish, the other, that they'll return it after they've finished. Edit: Anyone who says "after they've" begs the question will be shot. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147528 09/07/2005 5:52 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >It's the same thang as tsuwm asked about. yep; it's an abject lesson (to me, not to you, Marianna!) in the perils of splitting off from the original thread, for sure. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147529 09/08/2005 10:28 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 427 Spain Marianna addict Marianna addict Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 427 Spain Ooops, I'm sorry if this was somehow dealt with in Ullrich's thread... I admit I was confused by much of that thread, not least by its current transmogrification, so I wandered off it... So thanks for your answers, y'all... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147530 09/08/2005 2:04 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky y'all Marianna, we'll make a Southerner of you yet! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147531 09/08/2005 3:00 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass Marianna, I'm sorry for having further muddled things here -- what I was referring to was the original original thread, which I had imprecisely titled I would have liked an answer.. (and which has long since been subsumed). Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: "When I finish" vs "When I have finished" #147532 09/08/2005 4:23 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont > subsumed but not subtsuwmed... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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