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#147027 09/03/2005 11:20 AM
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"moss" is a sock puppet (pseudonym) for an individual who has been banned by management from this site. Apparently, he has taken the trouble to find another computer from which to post. He uses other pseudonyms as well, including "plutarch" "carpathian" and several more. Apparently, he has seen fit to find another computer from which to post. It is generally believed that it is his intention to destroy this board.


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And some people flip through maps just for the fun of it. Try this site:

http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg377a/delorme.html



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Notice the Kentucky entry:
Kentucky: Page 70, Grid E6, Just south of Daniel Boone Parkway: A coonskin cap
Discoverer unknown (confirmed with first edition of atlas by Pete Jenior)
Posted on misc.transport.road in spring 2001


Was the cap made from a coon killed by a Coonhunter for Christ? I think our girl on the spot should investigate.

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Shouldn't that be "our girl on the ground"?


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Elizabeth, you are a wicked, wicked woman!
As to the other: I've not gone to that website, but fake coonskins hats are common at tourist traps here in Kentucky, and the real thing can be found, too.


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someone posted a Wikipedia stub for esquivalience:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquivalience

it was then nominated for deletion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Esquivalience

"The result of the discussion was NO CONSENSUS, which defaults to KEEP."

there's a link to the "discussion" at the 2nd link -- your democratic encyclopaedia at work.


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The word is defined to mean: "the willful avoidance of one's official responsibilities." -- Wiki

Which is really pretty funny, now that I think about it.

Edit: Do you say a coinage is nihilartikel if it is meant *not* to be easily identifiable? I think they're mistaken.


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I'm bubbling up this thread 'cuz I'm doing a little research on ghost words and discovered abacot, which also relates to esquivalience.

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If what you say is true, the word is accepted in Du. as a real word:

Abacot,. een hoofdsiersel der oude koningen van Engeland, van boven als eene dubbele kroon zamengesteld. A baculo ad angulum, ...
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This one: Don't know if it is Polish or what East-EU language,
abacot

Under the images with the hats the last word is abacot. Does not seem all that ghosty.

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what Quinion says is that the original word was bycoket,
quoating OED2 here:
a spurious word found in many dictionaries, originating in a misprint of BYCOKET

of which,
Also 5-6 byekoket, bycokett, bicokett; also erron. 6 abococket, -ed, abococke, 7 abacoc, 7-9 abacot. [a. OF. bicoquet, bicocquet, biquoquet, cap, casque, head-dress, ‘capuce, casaque à capuchon; habituellement, coiffure militaire; quelquefois parure de femme, chaperon’ (Godef.); dim. of F. bicoque = It. bicocca little castle on a hill, Sp. bicoca a lookout; probably the original meaning, as in the diminutives and derivatives, was some kind of cap, whence transf. to a structure, topping or ‘crowning’ a height. App. f. bi- twice + cocca as in cocca del capo ‘crown of the head’ (Florio). Cf. also Sp. bicoquin a cap with two peaks, bicoquete a peasant's cap, Piedm. bicochin a priest's cap (Diez).]

Through a remarkable series of blunders and ignorant reproductions of error, this word appears in modern dictionaries as ABACOT. In Hall's Chron. a bicocket appears to have been misprinted abococket, which was copied by Grafton, altered by Holinshed to abococke, and finally ‘improved’ by Abraham Fleming to abacot (perhaps through an intermediate abacoc); hence it was again copied by Baker, inserted in his Glossarium by Spelman, and thence copied by Phillips, and so handed down through Bailey, Ash, Todd, etc., to 19th century dictionaries (some of which provide a picture of the ‘abacot’), and even inserted in dictionaries of English and foreign languages. [EA]

your picture seems to be a crown, which this thing cap doesn't seem to be except for the 'crown of the head' part. OED does contain this note, which I don't find to be very helpful: (The two crowns [? of England and France] with which the bycoket of Henry VI was ‘garnished’ or ‘embroidered’, were, of course, no part of the ordinary bycoket.)

edit: here's an illlustration: link

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So if it doesn't exist what's it doing there in World Wide Words?

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it exists it just ain't real.


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Originally Posted By: etaoin
well, I've heard of castanets being called "little black beetle(s)", but "horse chestnuts?"<br><br>canasta, anyone?<br><br>


This is "Horse Chess-nut":


Here's more info, if interested: Horse Chess-nut

This was a city-wide "Horses on Parade" project in 2001.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
So if it doesn't exist what's it doing there in World Wide Words?

Originally Posted By: etaoin
it exists it just ain't real.


irrational, innit? grin

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Originally Posted By: etaoin
it exists it just ain't real.
Oh see, the true philosopher! Ha!

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Quote:
[=stuwm]your picture seems to be a crown, which this thing cap doesn't seem to be except for the 'crown of the head' part. OED does contain this note, which I don't find to be very helpful: (The two crowns [? of England and France] with which the bycoket of Henry VI was ‘garnished’ or ‘embroidered’, were, of course, no part of the ordinary bycoket.)
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Yeh, it quite a silly King's bonnet but the word did exist in all its nonexistingness in that tekraszjne language.
Nice costume site!(link)

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>the word did exist in all its nonexistingness in that tekraszjne language.

apparently you didn't note the bolded [EA] text in my purple prose. <sigh>

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I was blinded by the color purple of the prose. Sigh no more, I've seen it NOW

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
Originally Posted By: Faldage
So if it doesn't exist what's it doing there in World Wide Words?

Originally Posted By: etaoin
it exists it just ain't real.


irrational, innit? grin


He didn't say it wasn't real; he said it didn't exist.

Originally Posted By: Quinion
This word is said not to exist.


Oh, OK. He said it was "said not to exist." He still didn't say it wasn't real.

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well, I did.


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esquivalience

So, this trap word is different from abacot, dord, and epicaricacy. Abacot started out as a misspelled bycoket. (I did enjoy how one of the lexicographers, Nathan Bailey, is involved with both abacot and epicaricacy.) While dord was an unintentional mistake, esquivalience was an intentional one for copyright purposes. Other links provided me with quick, fun reads of Jakob Maria Mierscheid (cf. Ern Malley and Ossian), honeytoken, fictitious entry (nihilartikel, Mountweazel), canary trap, and ludibrium. (Thanks for that Ron O.)


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biquoquet, cap Bucket hat? wink

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Wouldn't you rather chique it up to Bouquet hat? wink

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Bucket hat:

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hey! I lost that hat in the Mississippi a few years back!
- joe btfsplk

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Cool! And airy.

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and if you're boating/canoeing, just dip it over the side to really cool off - just keep a good grip on it!
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always good advice.

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Specially so as there are 4 holes in the bucket.

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Originally Posted By: etaoin
always good advice.

;¬ )


the hat, eta, the hat!

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heh

(nice smiley, Bran!)


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I know, I know it's copyrighted. (sorry)

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