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Sadean does exist for one who accepts the Marquis' philosophical and literary ideas rather than the sexual practices associated with his name.
Perhaps Christian is anomalous (if indeed it is) because we took it over ready-formed from the Greek Christianos rather than adding the suffix ourselves.
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Sadean does exist ... Christianos
Thanks for that valuable input, Bingley.
I confess I didn't know the Marquis de Sade had any "philosophical and literary ideas", at least, any worth reading. Oftimes we confuse character with erudition or creativity, but, of course, there is no necessary correspondence.
As a matter of fact, there is compelling evidence that a benign form of manic-depression [mania without the depression] may account for the entrepreneurial spirit and economic prowess of the United States, a country which was built by daring and adventurous immigrants from other countries. There is a newly published book on this subject. I will look for it and report back.
BTW your report on the origin of "Christian" does resolve what appears to me [at least] to be a conspicuous exception to the implicit, not explicit, general 'rule' guiding "ist" endings [that is, eponymic "ist" endings].
Thanks again.
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I've just found the book, Bingley, written by John D. Gartner who teaches psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins Medical School. Here is an extract from something he wrote which is "adapted from his new book The Hypomanic Edge". "Hypomania—often found in the relatives of manic depressives—is a mild form of the psychiatric disorder known as mania. Hypomanics are brimming with infectious energy, irrational confidence, and really big ideas. They think, talk, move, and make decisions quickly. Anyone who slows them down with questions “just doesn’t get it.” Hypomanics are not mental cases, but “normal” is not the first word that comes to mind when describing them. Hypomanics live on the edge, between normal and abnormal.
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"There will be gold rushes, booms, and manias aplenty in our future. America has been a ship riding the waves of irrational exuberance for hundreds of years, and she’s not likely to change course any time soon.
It’s in our blood."America’s Manic Entrepreneurs By John Gartner http://snipurl.com/g877
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I must admit I haven't read any of the Marquis de Sade's writings either, but one can see that it might be worth making a distinction between Sadean use of the French language and Sadist use of the French language.
I wonder if there exists a similar distinction between Masochan use of the German language and Masochist use of the German language?
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a similar distinction between Masochan use --- and Masochist use ---?Didn't know that masochist was an eponym, Bingley. But I see that you're right. [ Pls see * and Note below] This psychoanalyst - see below - observes that "masochism" is a term of "little precision" -- which makes sense, I suppose. We all make mistakes and mistakes bring us pain. One could go around in circles endlessly wondering if those mistakes are 'wilful'. On the other hand, causing pain to another is something which can be studied with scientific precision. One merely needs to establish that a person is inflicting pain on another person and the oppressor is aware of it and persists for no valid reason [i.e. no reason apart from the pleasure the pain brings to the oppressor]. Notes on Masochism: A Discussion of the History and Development of a Psychoanalytic ConceptWilliam I. Grossman, M.D. The term masochism, however, never did have a precise meaning or one that was generally accepted. It was a controversial term except as a literary designation for any phenomenon in which sexual pleasure and physical or mental pain were associated. The writings of Sacher-Masoch, which have been examined in an excellent literary and psychoanalytic study by Lenzer (1975), provided a prototype for all masochistic perversions. As Freud's concept of masochism evolved, the relation of partners in the masochistic perversion became the model for the relation between intrapsychic agencies, and masochism became a fundamental theoretical concept of drives and structure.
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At present, it has become evident that masochism is a term of little precision and that its value is descriptive and evocative. ------------ Part II presents one of a number of ways in which Freud took Krafft-Ebing's ideas about masochism and gave them a psychoanalytic shape. --------- Reporting on the Kris Study Group's examination of the problems of definition and usage with respect to masochism, Nersessian (1983) noted the confusion that arises when a term is used to refer indiscriminately to perversion, behavior, character trait, and instinctual drive. He added an interesting observation: "Not only did we find that not everyone agreed that a particular behavior was masochistic, but also that … it was often very difficult to maintain that view once it was challenged" (p. 3). This observation suggests that multiple viewpoints are possible: from one perspective, behavior may be masochistic, and from another, not.http://snipurl.com/g96a* Leopold von Sacher-Masoch(born, Lemberg, January 27, 1836 - died, Lindheim, March 9, 1895) Sacher-Masoch is best known for the novel, “Venus in Furs,” about the masochistic relationship between Serverin von Kusiemski dreamer and dillatante, and Wanda von Dunajew, a beautiful, free-spirited widow, to whom he becomes a slave. The novel is based on real events from the author’s life. It is was also the novel that Dr. Richard von Krafft-Ebing singled out in the origin of the word “Masochism.”http://snipurl.com/g97wNote: If "masochism" is a condition lacking the indicia required to make it the subject of authoritative scientific investigation, then it follows that one cannot be a "masochan".
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