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No I haven't, Faldage, but I think it's stretching the concept of "east" a bit for more than half of the people on the planet when Egypt is considered so. (thanks for the link)
The Compact OED says:
— USAGE The term oriental is now regarded as old-fashioned and potentially offensive as a term denoting people from the Far East. In US English, Asian is the standard accepted term in modern use; in British English, where Asian tends to denote people from the Indian subcontinent, specific terms such as Chinese or Japanese are more likely to be used.
I anticipate it will soon start to be *considered the far west...
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> the far west...
Why should they care? "Chicago - a small derelict post-industrial town that never recovered from the collapse of the former American auto industry..." :)
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>>At least "Oriental" focuses them to be from the "Far East".<<
Again, relative and Eurocentric. Though, 'Asian' may be too, in a funny way.
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>Again, relative and Eurocentric. Though, 'Asian' may be too, in a funny way.
I don't know if it's Eurocentric, but I did that read that when the Japanese decided to create their Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, they had to filch the word Asia from English, since they didn't have an extant name for the region. Any nihon scholars able to confirm or deny this one?
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I think Vern's it is referencing the word asian there, insel.
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>>referencing Asian
Ah. Pardon: Quick to trigger.
"Asian" oddly Eurocentric in that it differentiates Europe as a region from the continent to which it belongs. Except Britain, of course. ;)
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> Except Britain, of course. ;)
Yes, I was going to query your choice of Eurocentric - but I can't think of a sensible word for this based on the USA! Americancentric... Americentric... UScentric... USA-centric... darn, the fact you guys don't have a proper country name can make life awkward! ;)
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Ah, you mean Eurasia. I agree, but think we should set aside the artifice that is Suez ans stick with Euafrasia. Or just call them all Pangaea parts 1-whatever.
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>>proper country name
"Mall"?
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