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#142504 04/27/05 01:56 PM
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how does todays word PERPEND track from to weigh thoroughly (latin) to spin (indo-european)!??? and then,
from that, penthouse and pansy??
can someone help with the connectedness here?
i am a newbie at this...is it obvious?


#142505 04/27/05 03:01 PM
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Off the top of my head I can't help you with penthouse (though someone here will do that, never fear!) but if you get from "pend" (to weigh) to "penser" (Fr. to think, to weigh things mentally) to "pensee" ( "thought" with an accent aigu, which I don't know how to make on my keyboard) it's just a little hop to the Anglicized "pansy" - ta-da! Which is why pansies are for thoughts in the language of flowers.
Welcome to AWADtalk, ginax.


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hi gina, welcome to the house of pendere...

I think what's important in Anu's description is the word ultimately. there are several steps between to "weigh heavily", and penthouse, for example. steps that he doesn't mention. perhaps that we'll perpend them?



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Yes, welcome aBoard, Gina. (eta, I like that appellation SO much better than my mental pronunciation--thank you.)

I am not a language expert, but sometimes I can look things up. Encarta dictionary gives:
PER

adverb

for each one: for each one ( informal )


[14th century. From Latin. Ultimately, from an Indo-European base meaning “through, forward,” which is also the ancestor of English for1, pro, and pre-.]

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861724901/per.html


Whoa--take a look at this additional def. from Infoplease:
per•pend

Pronunciation: (pűr'pund), [key]
—n.
a large stone passing through the entire thickness of a wall. Also,parpen,perpent.Also called through stone.

http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/perpend

Dang--despite the above making me think of parapet, there's no connection, acc'g. to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary of Current English:
parapet
/parrpit/

• noun 1 a low protective wall along the edge of a roof, bridge, or balcony. 2 a protective wall or bank along the top of a military trench.

— ORIGIN French, or from Italian parapetto, ‘chest-high wall’.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/parapet?view=uk



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a large stone passing through the entire thickness of a wall ~ Jackie

Not just stones. In a nine inch thick brick wall the bricks that run crosswise to the length of the wall, that is they are placed at right angles to the stretcher course (which runs paralell to the length of the wall) are also called perpends - or they used to be anyway.


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I have some perpendicular bricks in the wing walls on my house. How much nicer to call them "perpends" than "those sticky-outy bricks."



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