of course there are winners, milo! its like the drew carey show.. there are winners, and winners get points.
the points are worthless, winning is worthless, but none the less, there are winners and points.

if you want lots of points, play hogwash.. when you've collected a million points, you can trade them for..um, nothing, cause they are worthless. (you'd wouldn't even impress other here if you announced that you had one a million points.. no one would care. but you can still will win and get point!)

no winners? gee's, what kind of place do you think this is?
(still, i remain pointless)


my other obsession