Plutarch, thanks for earthing up your thread starter from Mavens. Mavens died--and I don't think it has been resuscitated, has it? tsuwm? Do you know?

What I liked about Mavens was how so much random information was thrown together cohesively, such as in the use of the Marx material above along with the definition and etymological information for the word 'to wax.' Plutarch's travels to the 'wax' page took him back to 2000 when Mavens was still operating, and I don't know when the web page stopped running, but it was a loss.

Anyway, thanks, plutarch, for bringing Mavens back to my memory. The wane page you quoted is a good one the Mavens group put together--delightful, well-researched, surprising, and, I think, one of a group that operates no longer. Too bad.