Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#136408 12/25/2004 2:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,296
Eve's name, appearing in the Bible only five times, according to an article I just read.

I wonder how it is pronounced in Hebrew? As always, I do wish we still used original names though I understand why it is too much against the tide to do so. One site gives her name as HawwAh, but I can't find any reason for capitalizing the second 'a'. I like Hawwah over Eve because it sounds more ancient to my ear. It means something like 'giver of life' or 'mother of all life.'


#136409 12/25/2004 4:48 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
Alack Wordwind, I tried but everytime I say "Hawwah" an earworm reminds me of the Beethoven routine by John Belushi where his doting sisters would stand behind the deaf Beethoven and shout ...

PLEASE LUDWIG! YOU MUST EAT! YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING AT THE PIANO FOR TWO DAYS. IF YOU DON'T GET UP FROM THE PIANO AND EAT YOU WILL DIE! PLEASE, LUDWIG, PLEASE DON'T DIE!

A few moments pass and then Beethoven turns and looks up from the piano where he has been composing and smiles and says...Oh, hello, hawwahya?



Here though, is a neat Beethoven Christmas site that plays the most pleasant background music as you read about his life.

http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Bio/BiographyLudwig.html


#136410 12/25/2004 6:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
I do wish we still used original names though I understand why it is too much against the tide to do so.

A child will woe betide
A name running agin the tide

As our own themilum has just made so [comically] evident:

Oh, hello, hawwahya?



#136411 12/25/2004 8:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
he most pleasant background music

I"m sure he loves that...



formerly known as etaoin...
#136412 12/26/2004 1:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
stranger
stranger
Offline
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
in arabic her name is pronounced hawwah, as well. the second 'a' comes from the throat, so i suppose that the stress is on the second syllable. perhaps something of that sort is why the a is capatalized? of course, hebrew isn't all that similar to arabic...


#136413 12/26/2004 1:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
Bluefruitbowl: Your name conjures up as much fascination as your insightful post.

I, for one, look forward to more of such beguiling fruit.


#136414 12/26/2004 1:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
stranger
stranger
Offline
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
actually, i've always thought of my username as meaning 'a fruit bowl that is blue' ^-^


#136415 12/26/2004 2:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
Hue got me there, bluefruitbowl.

Even so, just as a fluid takes the shape of its vessel, a plum takes the hue of its bowl.

And the fruits of our labor take the hue of our resolve.

The 'you' that we take as our name
Cannot take us to glory or shame
But it lets us aspire
And it gives us desire
To achieve the goals we proclaim.




#136416 12/26/2004 4:53 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
Hi bluefruitbowl welcome to Awad!

Don't mind Plutarch, he speaks in rhymes as a blueblood speaks in french, that is,
because he can speak well in rhymes and most of us can't (except Maverick).

Please tell me Bluefruitbowl, do you represent the male or the female of our kind?
Sometimes I get into trouble not knowing.

Welcome.


#136417 12/26/2004 5:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
he speaks in rhymes

Themilum is too kind, bluefruitbowl, as most others are as well. He means I speak in rhymes without reason. Others speak more reason and less rhyme -- which means you will always have reason to visit here, if not rhyme and reason both.




#136418 12/26/2004 11:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,636
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,636
Welcome, bluefruitbowl. I have a yellowfruitbowl I made that sits on my kitchen counter. I fill it with lemons from my own lemon tree. Please come back and play with us some more. I see from your profile your name is Mia. Odds are you are of the female persuasion. Please tell themilum so he doesn't get too embarassed.


#136419 12/28/2004 1:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
stranger
stranger
Offline
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
heehee. i am indeed female. this place is fun.

puto te esse stultum

#136420 12/28/2004 2:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,773
Pooh-Bah
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,773
So, how did the Hebrew "Hawwah" mutate in English to "Eve"?


#136421 12/28/2004 3:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
You do? But we've hardly met.


Stultus est licut stultus facit.

Edit for non-Latiners: "Stupid is as stupid does."

#136422 12/28/2004 9:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
stranger
stranger
Offline
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
no. i kid. although, am i correct in assuming that you are female? if so, then it can't apply to you.

puto te esse stultum

#136423 12/28/2004 9:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,230
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,230
Putting aside the fact that in this particular forum signatures are marginally less welcome than Michael Moore at a Bush family reunion, the choice of an insulting tagline deliberately obscured in Latin does raise intersting questions about the user's notion of courteous social intercourse.


#136424 12/28/2004 9:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
stranger
stranger
Offline
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
it does seem that everyone is marginally offended by my signatures or puzzled. im sorry, and i have removed it, for what its worth.


Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 6,511
You might want to check your declensions before you post something in Latin, bluefruitbowl, especially if it looks like an insult! You're dealing with a group, some of whom, marginally at least, know Latin.

Ave, et die dulci fruere!

PS Yes, I am female, if my bio-page is to be believed.




Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
stranger
stranger
Offline
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9
check my declensions? te is accusative, stultum is masculine and neuter accusative. or am i confused?


Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
I also had thought that it should be nominative but on reconsideration I'm thinking that accusative *is correct. It's the old accusative subject with infinitive verb thang that the Romans were so fond of and us poor case-unconscious Anglophones have total lost track of. And as far as Fools go, around here I'm the head Fool.


Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
And as far as Fools go, around here I'm the head Fool. - Faldage

Not true, bluefruitbowl, Faldage accentuates to be the biggest fool here but he is actually only occasionally. Most often Faldage is a rare sage of devious device and a wit beyond belief.
As sure as my name is John Lee Hooker.

Yours truly,
John Lee Hooker



Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
"Time Magazine stated that "John Lee Hooker doesn't just sing the blues, and he doesn't just play the blues...he is the blues"."



#136430 12/29/2004 3:40 AM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,757
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,757
a wit beyond belief

That's not hawwah spell relief ;)


#136431 12/29/2004 10:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit,
                                      --Quinapalus


Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
"Say for example you were an anceint Hebrew Pharaoh like the Great Akhenaton - then you could spell 'releif' or 'beleif' or 'word-theif' hawwah ever you pleased and petty word-scholars would still dance about your door."
_____________________________________ - John Lee Quinapalus 1936


Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
Say for example you are an ancient Hebrew Pharaoh like the Great Akhenaton - then you could spell 'releif'

If you were an ancient Egyptian Pharoah, you wouldn't get any relief until after you were dead, themilum. And even then you wouldn't like the likeness.

Sometimes I feel like I'm pitching in relief for ya. :)


#136434 12/29/2004 11:23 AM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,529
Sometimes I feel like I'm pitching in relief for ya.

And don't think that I don't appreciate it, Plutarch, but it looks like a weak bullpen will keep us out of the play-offs again this year... Damn.


Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
veteran
veteran
Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,385
it looks like a weak bullpen will keep us out of the play-offs again this year...

We need to let the bulls in the pen out earlier, themilum, before the starter gets buried on the mound.

When the starter gets swamped by the score
It's too late for the bullpen to roar.



Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2025 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0