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#134346 10/25/04 04:58 PM
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But what I do when I think is more precisely defined in...
OED third edition, 1886, p. 996-97 3rd. para.
def. (#7), nexus Brt. P.432 1842 & Adm pp 348-49 1864
Oxford Press London, England: copyright pending.


okay, first off there is no "third edition" of the OED. the ongoing *online update of the 2nd edition (and supplements) is (so far) referred to only as the New Edition. then, if anything had been published in 1886, it would have been a 0th edition folio, as the 1st edition wasn't published in toto until 1928. and the publisher is Oxford University Press.

if you're going to parody something, at least get the *facts straight,
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(isn't that the contrapositive?)
just thought i'd provide a quick, ultra-basic guide to logic and if/then statements:
Given the statement......If A, then B.
The converse is..........If B, then A.
The inverse is...........If not A, then not B.
The contrapositive is....If not B, then not A.

(For a more concrete example, try substituting "you have red hair" for A and "you have hair" for B.)
Note: I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, I just thought you all might want to know


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>>>>okay, first off there is no "third edition" of the OED. the ongoing *online update of the 2nd edition (and supplements) is (so far) referred to only as the New Edition. then, if anything had been published in 1886, it would have been a 0th edition folio, as the 1st edition wasn't published in toto until 1928. and the publisher is Oxford University Press.

if you're going to parody something, at least get the *facts straight,
-joe (pedantic to a fault) friday






#134349 10/25/04 06:21 PM
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>>>>Note: I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, I just thought you all might want to know

No stress gonold. We're all here to have fun and to learn. As you see from all of our posts, everybody is welcome to add their two-cents' worth. I'm sure nobody thinks you were trying to be a know-it-all so opine away!


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Inverse, then, not contrapositive. Got it. Thanks. (I think that means you should get half my extra-credit point, too! )


#134351 10/25/04 07:28 PM
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I appreciate your showing off there. I've never studied logic and only know anything about it at all in a most roundabout way. This is a great little mnemotic.


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who is this?

I think --- hard but not deep.
I think --- often but not much.
I think --- more of my thinking than anyone else does.

Extra credit if you have the courage to say who it is.


I certainly don't have that sort of courage; but we could convert it into a vote:

[ ] grapho
[ ] gnat
[ ] themgmt
[ ] plutarch
[ ] wordminstral
[ ] all of the above



THE MGMT



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we could convert it into a vote:[ ] grapho[ ] gnat[ ] themgmt[ ] plutarch[ ] wordminstral[ ] all of the above

It doesn't take any courage to pick any of those, snoot.

But, picking a Carpal Tunnel, that's another kettle of carp altogether. Especially for THE MGMT.




#134354 10/26/04 02:53 AM
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ok, so i have a logic question--

its a sort of the "do you still beat your wife?" deal.

you know, if you answer the question, NO, it implies you used to beat your wife, and if you answer YES well its worse!

what are these cleverly worded argruements called?

there are some who ACCUSE (damn, complain, etc) that older members suffer from group think. (the older members are identifed as Carpels--from the stupid title the soft ware assigns)

If you disagree with the accuser, he claims you are part of the old timers cabal, and part of the 'group' he is accusing of group think. (agreeing with him is worse!)

so what is the term for a logical falicy?

how do i say, NO, i don't beat my wife, and never did,--with out sounding defensive! when in truth --you've done nothing wrong?

as an aside, i vote for all of the above


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a 0th edition folio

My high school library had the original subscription in fascicles version of the OED which had been bound in increasingly modern bindings. That's the one in which I read etymologies and began to wonder what Gothic and Old Saxon looked like.


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