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So René Descartes walks into a bar and the bartender asks him, "Would you like a beer?"
 Descartes, being a good Frenchman and deeming beer suitable only for Englishmen, Belgians, and les boches, says, "I think not," and disappears in a puff of logic.
 
 
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Just thinking about food makes me gain weight:
 Cogito, ergo sumo.
 
 
 
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Descartes and Wittgenstein are on a Mediterranean cruise and they lean against  the ship's railing and look  thoughtfully at the seemingly  endless   expanse of the bluegreen sea.  After a long while  Descartes speaks..."Wittgenstein, clara voce cogito; visne scire quid credem? Credo 'cogito, ergo sum'." Translation..."Wittgenstein, I'm thinking out loud; you know what I think? I think that 'I think, therefore I am'." To which Wittgenstein replied... "Descartes, you pretentious dolt, can't you speak English? You are presuming the "I" that does the thinking!"  Then  Descartes and Wittgenstein both vanish in a puff of Wittgenstein's logic.   |  |  |  
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Whittgenstein
 ¡¿Hwæt?!
 
 And extra credit for the first to report the logical fallacy in my René Descartes walks into a bar joke.
 
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Thank Heaven, Fadage , you caught me in a misspelling - a misleading misspelling. I am sorry that I misled  you. How foolish of me to expect you  to think that my "Whittgenstein" was Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889- 1951), the famous semanticist. Forgive me.  Hey!  I think I'd best give you a little hint least you miss  my little joke entirely...  More particularly, Flew’s paper tells a strange story of Wittgenstein’s being invited to reply to a paper by an undergraduate, Oscar Wood, at the Jowett Society in 1947, and saying nothing about the paper’s subject, "Cogito ergo sum", until Pritchard asked him about it directly: whereupon he [Wittgenstein]  replied "Cogito ergo sum. That’s a very peculiar sentence", pointing to his own head at the words "cogito" and "sum". Flew, at the meeting, thought this "perverse but no doubt entirely characteristic", but in later years "realised that, by thus reminding his audience that the referents of the token-reflexive word ‘I’ are the flesh and blood people who utter it to refer to themselves, Wittgenstein might have been suggesting a radical and totally devastating objection to the position which Descartes had reached in the second paragraph of Part IV of his Discourse on the Method. For it is simply false to maintain that the referent of this word is an incorporeal and yet substantial subject of consciousnes." __Taken from--> "Russell, Wittgenstein and Cogito ergo sum" , remarks on a paper by Antony Flew presented in Washington DC on the 25th of March, 2000  There.    |  |  |  
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Joke?  I thought it was a koan!
 
 
 
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A koan?    Oh Faldage ! Oh you kid!   |  |  |  
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Whittgenstein - Dick Whittington's German philospher cousin? - and I disappear in a puff of overstretched extrapolation ...
 
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Whittgenstein - Dick Whittington's German philospher cousin? - and I disappear in a puff of overstretched extrapolation...Quasi cummi sim elasticum, tuque gluten es, omnia quae blateras, a me resilientia haerent ad te! (in other words) I'm rubber, you're glue; bounces off me, sticks on you!     But be carefulCapfka ,   Dick Whittington is the the pantomime hero   of  Englishmen who have nothing to say.   |  |  |  
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Be careful there, or you will be accused of putting Descartes before de Horace.
 
 
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But be careful Capfka, Dick Whittington is the the pantomime hero of Englishmen who have nothing to say. 
 Yes they do.  "Turn again."
 
 
 
 
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So René Descartes walks into a bar and the bartender asks him, "Would you like a beer?" ... [And] Descartes says, "I think not," and disappears in a puff of logic.To which the standard response is: "Didn't God Vanish in a puff of logic somewhere in the "Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy"?" Check here for come-back:http://ozgrid.com/forum/showthread.php?p=123606#post123606 Re And extra credit for the first to report the logical fallacy in my René Descartes walks into a bar joke It's not your  Rene Descartes joke. That's the "logical fallacy". Ante up, Faldage. I'm going to enjoy that "extra credit".   |  |  |  
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"Turn again", Capfka??? Anyway, here are a few  Descartes caricatures of some of the  frequent posters to Awad; rather,  the posters that  I don't think  will take offence and get boiling  mad.   Faldage: I think; therefore I'm a library. Wordwind: I think and act clearly and cleanly; therefore the Universe is murky and strange. Consuello: I think in Spanish; therefore the World is a Fandango. AnnaStrophic: I think only good thoughts; therefore a   sharp  pen is my yin . The long gone  Grapho: I think with my biology; therefore [ >> Paris Hilton<< ] The great WWH: I think today: therefore I'm a time machine. Wanna take a trip?  tsuwm; I think; therefore I am Dictionaries. But what I do when I think  is more precisely defined in...OED third edition, 1886, p. 996-97 3rd. para. def.  (#7),  nexus Brt. P.432 1842 & Adm pp 348-49 1864
 Oxford Press London, England: copyright pending.
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I think; therefore I'm a library.
 Ooh.  I like it, Mile.  I think I'll use it in Latin.
 
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Milo: I think to confound and amuse; therefore, follow me through my labyrinth dressed in a multitude of suspended facts enough to choke a horse, except the horse can't fit inside here. 
 ...love what you said about tsuwm. He'll be so pleased he might even smile!
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just letting you know, i think it was thoughtless for you to forget me!
 or is it that you think i am thoughless (that is, do you think i don't think, (or don't think up to your standand?) ergo i am not worth being teased?
 
 i'm going off to a corner to pout, and think about what i can do about this..
 (maybe i'll start a food thread)
 my feelings aren't really hurt--and i loved your what you did--great fun!  what about you? how do you fit in?
 
 
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...Descartes said haughtily, "Beer? I think not!" and -pouf!- he disappeared!
 Logical fallacy:
 
 The opposite of "A implies B" is not "not-A implies not-B" (isn't that the contrapositive?) but "B and not-A", which here is equivalent to "I am, but I'm not thinking!"
 
 But fallacy, shmallacy. It makes a much better joke this way.
 
 Do I make my point?
 
 
 And while we're on the subject of what is and what isn't consider this:
 
 AIN'T IT ISN'T
 
 It’s is not, it isn’t ain’t, and it’s it’s, not its, if you mean it is.  If you don’t, it’s its.  Then too, it’s hers.  It isn’t her’s. It isn’t our’s either.  It’s ours, and likewise yours and theirs.
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of troy: I knit; therefore, I think perpetually in binomial theorum that leaves most here in the dust of confused lint knots. 
 
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Logical contrapositive it is, wofa.  You get the extra credit.  And I say the cognitive dissonance of having a logical fallacy embedded in a joke about René Descartes just makes all that much funnier.
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I think only good thoughts; therefore a sharp pen is my yin.Heh. I'm so balanced I've got equilibrium up the yin-yang.  Thanks for the laffs, Milum.   |  |  |  
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TEd:  I think, then I come back to the thurfathe.
 
 
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yesl she knits, but does she knit any lions?
 
 
 
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look for yourself-- i have a photo gallery of my knitting (and a few photo's of the interior of my apartment-) New photo's get added all the time...http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v299/oftroy/ actually the gallery doesn't hold photo of everything i have knit--only about 90%--missing is the bear--which my granddaughter said was the best present she has ever recieved. (i suppose it could have been a lion- it was a generic animal, really)  i finished the pink pom pom sweater, she has named it a gingerbread sweater--cause it looks like sprinkles you'd put on a gingerbread cookie--that's what comes of watching Shrek.  if your not careful, i'll add the links to the geek knitting sites-- were you can learn about the relationship between knit and purl/hex and bin, or other interesting (well to me!) mathmatical relationships and knitting. (--PS. i do often use LION Brand yarn--does that count for knitting lions?) |  |  |  
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knit any lions
 you ink, because you're in a pen state?
 
 
 
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I think; therefore I'm a libraryShameless Carpalattery, themilum. I thought you were above that.   Hey, I've got a variation on your game. Instead of linking a notable's thinking with something only the notable would find credible, why not invite people to identify a notable by their actual  characteristics.  For instance, who is this? I think --- hard but not deep. I think --- often but not much. I think --- more of my thinking than anyone else does. Extra credit if you have the courage to say who it is.   |  |  |  
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But what I do when I think is more precisely defined in...OED third edition, 1886, p. 996-97 3rd. para.
 def. (#7), nexus Brt. P.432 1842 & Adm pp 348-49 1864
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 okay, first off there is no "third edition" of the OED. the ongoing *online update of the 2nd edition (and supplements) is (so far) referred to only as the New Edition. then, if anything had been published in 1886, it would have been a 0th edition folio, as the 1st edition wasn't published in toto until 1928. and the publisher is Oxford University Press.
 
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(isn't that the contrapositive?)just thought i'd provide a quick, ultra-basic guide to logic and if/then statements: Given the statement......If A, then B.The converse is..........If B, then A.
 The inverse is...........If not A, then not B.
 The contrapositive is....If not B, then not A.
 
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>>>>okay, first off there is no "third edition" of the OED. the ongoing *online update of the 2nd edition (and supplements) is (so far) referred to only as the New Edition. then, if anything had been published in 1886, it would have been a 0th edition folio, as the 1st edition wasn't published in toto until 1928. and the publisher is Oxford University Press.
 if you're going to parody something, at least get the *facts straight,
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>>>>Note: I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, I just thought you all might want to know 
 No stress gonold.  We're all here to have fun and to learn.  As you see from all of our posts, everybody is welcome to add their two-cents' worth.  I'm sure nobody thinks you were trying to be a know-it-all so opine away!
 
 
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Inverse, then, not contrapositive.  Got it. Thanks.  (I think that means you should get half my extra-credit point, too!    ) |  |  |  
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I appreciate your showing off there.    I've never studied logic and only know anything about it at all in a most roundabout way. This is a great little mnemotic. |  |  |  
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In reply to:
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 I think --- hard but not deep.
 I think --- often but not much.
 I think --- more of my thinking than anyone else does.
 
 Extra credit if you have the courage to say who it is.
 
 I certainly don't have that sort of courage; but we could convert it into a vote:
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 THE MGMT
 
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we could convert it into a vote:[ ] grapho[ ] gnat[ ] themgmt[ ] plutarch[ ] wordminstral[ ] all of the aboveIt doesn't take any courage  to pick any of those, snoot.   But, picking a Carpal Tunnel, that's another kettle of carp altogether.    Especially for THE MGMT .   |  |  |  
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ok, so i have a logic question--
 its a sort of the "do you still beat your wife?" deal.
 
 you know, if you answer the question, NO, it implies you used to beat your wife, and if you answer YES well its worse!
 
 what are these cleverly worded argruements called?
 
 there are some who ACCUSE (damn, complain, etc) that older members suffer from group think.  (the older members are identifed as Carpels--from the stupid title the soft ware assigns)
 
 If you disagree with the accuser, he claims you are part of the old timers cabal, and part of the 'group' he is accusing of group think.  (agreeing with him is worse!)
 
 so what is the term for a logical falicy?
 
 how do i say, NO, i don't beat my wife, and never did,--with out sounding defensive! when in truth --you've done nothing wrong?
 
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a 0th edition folio
 My high school library had the original subscription in fascicles version of the OED which had been bound in increasingly modern bindings. That's the one in which I read etymologies and began to wonder what Gothic and Old Saxon looked like.
 
 
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