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#132321 10/09/2004 1:15 PM
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I feel like I've been Carpal Tunnelized.

It is an honor, Grapho.

You're the first one who ever made it there on merit.

You and all your avatars haven't posted 25% of the "Carpal Quota".

But who can argue with your "clicks"?

If there is one thing a Carp understands, Grapho, it's "the clicks"*.

No Carp and all his Carpal Clique has ever "clicked" as much as you have!

I always believed in ya, Grapho!

* We have a saying which goes all the way back to the Founding Falsesage:

"The clicks count more than the content." Res ipsa loclictur.

We call it: The Law of Carpal Tunnelority


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We call it: The Law of Carpal Tunnelority

Well, I guess every law was made to be broken, themgmt.

I feel humbled by the honor.




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I feel humbled by the honor.

You can't be serious, Grapho!

Wait 'til Plutarch hears about this.





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It is an honor, Grapho. You're the first one who ever made it there on merit.

Have you forgotten what we're fighting for, Grapho!

We're not just fighting for a meritocracy. We're fighting for democracy.

They only want you now because you've become a Carpalebrity!

You can't be a man of the Carpal and also a man of the people.

Get your head straight, Grapho!




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They only want you now because you've become a Carpalebrity!

Yeah, but I get to sit next to the Big Carp. Maybe I could make him understand.




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Maybe I could make him understand.

Whadaya say, Plutarch. It's worth a shot, isn't it?




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JUST IN "Loaf" rises higher than Mount St. Helens dome

Extract: Though it's still possible the volcano will quiet down, Pallister said he thinks some type of eruption will occur in the coming days

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002058399_volcano09m.html

There's still a whole lot of quakin' goin' on, eruptionfans.

STAY TUNED!



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Maybe I could make him understand. ... Whadaya say, Plutarch. It's worth a shot, isn't it?

I say again, Grapho.

You can't be a man of the Carpal and still be a man of the people.

"As Lucretia Mott, abolitionist and suffragette put it, "Any great change should expect resistance. Change shakes the very foundation of privilege."

http://www.mastersforum.com/archives/pm_archives/Roberts/Roberts_Precis.htm

The core elite, perhaps no more than 4 or 5 Carpals at best [known only as the olicarpy], can no sooner surrender their privileges than a rich man can pass through the eye of a needle wearing his alligator shoes, Grapho.

Please remember that.





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You can't be a man of the Carpal and still be a man of the people

I respect your historical perspective, Plutarch - "plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" - but perhaps we are missing an opportunity here.

If I could get inside the Carpal Tunnel Temple, maybe we could get some real intelligence on their operations.

Maybe we could find out who the olicarpy really is!



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maybe we could get some real intelligence on their operations

The olicarpy will never allow any real intelligence to invade their ranks, Grapho.

They can spot real intelligence a mile away.




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The olicarpy will never allow any real intelligence to infiltrate their ranks, Grapho.

I think that might be an overstatement, Plutarch.

I don't think the olicarpy has anything against real intelligence per se. I just think they are opposed to anyone using real intelligence to make them appear ordinary -- in others words, unCarpal.

I have a solution, Plutarch. See what you think of it.


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I have a solution, Plutarch. See what you think of it.

Hold on, Grapho. We'll have to bring Wordminstrel back for this.


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I just think they are opposed to anyone using real intelligence to make them appear ordinary

I think you're on to something here, Grapho.

But, that's the dilemma, isn't it?

How can the olicarpy know if real intelligence is being used to make them feel "ordinary", or if real intelligence itself makes them feel "ordinary"?

It puts them on the horns of a dilemma, wouldn't you say? Either way it makes them feel "ordinary".

I can hardly wait to hear your "solution".

Where is Wordminstrel?


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Yo, Wordminstrel.


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Either way it makes them feel "ordinary".

So, what's wrong with feeling "ordinary"? Most of us are "ordinary".

That doesn't mean we're going to let any olicarpy Carpalord over us.



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That doesn't mean we're going to let any olicarpy Carpalord over us

Yeah, we could form our own Counter-Carpal movement and Counter-Carpalord all over them. Let them see how it feels for a change.


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Let them see how it feels for a change

That never works in the long run, Tang, believe me.

We have to find a way to resolve these primitive power struggles. They have plagued ordinary people throughout all the ages.

That's why I'm anxious to hear Grapho's "solution".

They say "There is nothing new under the sun", but you never know.

Where is Wordminstrel anyway?






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I have a solution, Plutarch. See what you think of it

So Grapho thinks he's got a "solution", eh?

[Aside to Plutarch] He's still an "Addict", you know.


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He's still an "Addict", you know

Yes, I know, Wordminstrel. But let's hear him out. We can't leave any stone unturned in our quest for peace.



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How can the olicarpy know if real intelligence is being used to make them feel "ordinary", or if real intelligence itself makes them feel "ordinary"?

the mgmt hit the nail on the head. The Olicarps are on the horns of a dilemma whether or not we treat them with respect. Is everyone good with that, so far?




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The Carps are on the horns of a dilemma whether or not we treat them with respect

Yeah, OK.

Treating them with respect never got us anywhere.

Plutarch came here first, as a "Stranger". He was a gentleman, as he always is. He was tsuwhammied almost immediately. He fought back. Then he was swarmed. They were running in packs. That's what people call "the Olicarpy" nowadays.

I came to Plutarch's aid. Together we held them off. We were outnumbered at least 5 or 6 to 1 [if you count me and Plutarch as one]. We didn't know who the "Big Carp" was back then. We didn't even know who we were fighting. Or why. Or why no-one came to our aid.

I guess they weren't expecting a fight. They certainly weren't expecting such a fight as Plutarch and Wordminstrel gave them.

You know Plutarch is not one to turn tail and run. And Wordminstrel cowers before no man, and certainly no Carpal Tunnel dog pack.

They never forgave us for that.

And they never gave you a chance, Grapho, however respectful you were. Or Moss. Or even Tang. And Tang is only a drone, for heaven's sake.

Treating them with respect? I hope that isn't your "solution", Grapho.


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And they never gave you a chance, Grapho, however respectful you were. Or Moss. Or even Tang. And Tang is only a drone, for heaven's sake.

You're opening up old wounds here, Grapho. You have no idea what Wordminstrel and I went through. But we weren't fighting only for ourselves. You know that.



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You're opening up old wounds here, Grapho.

Maybe now is not the time to deal with this.


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Maybe now is not the time to deal with this

Maybe not, Grapho. We need a clear head for this.

Sometimes I think it takes more courage to make peace than it does to fight.

We are men of peace, friends. And warriors only when peace with honor fails.

Grapho, we will hear what you have to say later. If you have a "solution", we are honor-bound to consider it deeply.





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But we weren't fighting only for ourselves. You know that

It's thanks to Plutarch and Wordminstrel that "Journeymen" like you, and "Strangers" like themilum, can hold your head up around here, themgmt. I guess you know that.

But our job won't be done until you don't need us any more.

That's what my "solution" is all about.





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That's what my "solution" is all about

I don't suppose you could tell me now.

I could run it past the Big Carp.


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I don't suppose you could tell me now

Let's hear what Plutarch and Wordminstrel have to say first.


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Let's hear what Plutarch and Wordminstrel have to say first

When will you three meet again?



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When will you three meet again?

When the hurly burly's done.


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When the hurly burly's done

When the battle's lost or won.


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When the battle's lost or won

Why does Plutarch always wind up with all the best lines.


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Why does Plutarch always wind up with all the best lines

The early bird gets the worm, Worminstrel.

Some say "Fame is fleeting." But more often it is "fleet of foot".


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The early bird gets the worm, Worminstrel

Very well. Keep me advised of any Carpallosties, themgmt, however trivial.

I want to know everything as soon as Plutarch knows it.


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[Aside to themgmt] I don't want to be rambling if there are any rumblings.

There's more at stake here than truth and justice, you know.


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There's more at stake here than truth and justice, you know

I understand, Wordminstrel. You have my word on it.

If Plutarch's delivery is faster than your own, it won't be the fault of the deliveryboy.


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If Plutarch's delivery is faster than your own, it won't be the fault of the deliveryboy

The only "edge" a gentlemen needs is the edge of his wits, themgmt.


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The only "edge" a gentlemen needs is the edge of his wits, themgmt

That's the edge the olicarps have been avoiding.


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That's the edge the olicarps have been avoiding

Well, the game is up, themgmt.

We won't leave here until it's safe for any "Stranger" to visit here with dignity, paying due respect to all, but undue deference to none.

No cabal of Carpals will defeat us. I think you know that.

But we will listen to Grapho's "solution". He is only an "Addict" and he doesn't know the olicarpy as we know them. But we will listen to him.

As Plutarch says, we are men of peace. Warriors only if peace with honor fails.


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As Plutarch says, we are men of peace. Warriors only if peace with honor fails

Woe betide your adversaries, Wordminstrel.

They can hide but there's no place to run.


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QUAKING NEWS Temperatures soar in Mount St. Helens' crater
Seattle Times, Tuesday, October 12, 2004

"MOUNT ST. HELENS — New thermal images reveal that parts of the lava dome in Mount St. Helens' crater are piping hot, and scientists are seeing signs that magma continues to rise."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002060319_volcano12m.html

STAY TUNED


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