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Avy story of the Ululate genre (not) :
A Weltschmerz from Belm whose namaste was Schadenfreude swung her Hippopotomonstrosesquipedalophobia to N'est-ce pas's Ohrwurm merchant. They began to d'escalier in Mot juste : satyriasis and quietus activities. They had to indulge in dang, heck, and poot quite a few lives, during which they became tendentious. And despite disapproval of the Weltschmerz's patoot they ended up abecedrian. And lived happily ever after.
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Avy, I don't know where you live, but in England in the 60s there was a "verbal art form" called "gobbledygook". I wouldn't swear to the spelling. Exponents could speak in a normal tone of voice, at a normal speed, using what on the surface sounded like normal syntax, but be saying nothing that made any sense. You heard it from time to time for a few years, then it just disappeared.
Your AEnigma output looks like gobbledygook. You may just have found the ultimate gobbledygook generator - 30 years too late!
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Avy avers: Aenigma is not easy to play with
Except for the fact that Ænigma did not retain your possesive markers the output was definitely readable. To generate something with both readable output and readable input would be a serious challenge. I believe it would require a complete list of Ænigma's vocabulary. Does anyone know if such a thing is available?
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and back in the early 80's, Scientific American -- then still a pretty good amateur science magazine, had a computer column.
One of the columns was devoted to writing in BASIC– a mock language generator.
the idea was we all –well make that most– sort of recognize a language– even if we can't read it.. French looks different than English, and Latin and Italian. Why?
The rule of each language where analyzed.. (All words in English must have a vowel– a, e,i,o,u are acceptable vowels.. We use th, ch, sh, ght, kn, sm, cl, and other letter combinations. But don't use ts (used in japanese and greek) or schl (except in names from German)– and we don't use cz (many slavic languages..) The average word in english is 6.x letter long, there are no two letter words with the letter u (but a, e, i and o work for two letter words, as does y. ) and sentences had on average 7 words– but could be as short as one... There were lots of rules.
once you had the rules, you could set up a random text generator–and make it follow all the rules.. about every third word was a real english word.. But it was non-sense.
the columnist actually gave the code for a basic program to generate "almost english", and gave some of the parameters for almost latin.. And almost french. I don't know if Scientific American has all of its archives available on its web page.. But I remember typing in the code and playing with program.
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Capital K, I live in India. No. I had not heard about gobbledygook. It was interesting to know about it - thanks. Though I had read the word in teD's thread, didn't know what it was about,entirely.
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There was a radio comedian, in the '70s, by the name of Stanley Unwin (who took the title Professor - although this was utterley self-awarded) who used to do five or six minute sketches entirely in gobbledegook. I have to say I didn't admire him, but he had quite a cult following.
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Thanks Rhub - I had forgotten the name. I tend to agree that gobbledegook of itself was pretty useless. What I admired was someone's ability to actually spout it and sound perfectly reasonable at the same time.
However, I much prefer the Sir Humphrey Appleby approach to speaking at length without actually saying anything at all ...
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It is, of course, a required skill for all politicians. and not just parliamentary ones. Have you ever heard the General Secretary of a Union explaining why the executive are calling off a strike?
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