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#130465 07/16/2004 1:21 AM
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This was new to me; it was in our paper today: derecho. Here's a partial quote: ... intense super cell storms that are more commonly seen in March or April.

And some of those cells are spawning a rare type of storm called a "derecho," which can carry hurricane-force winds. They typically occur only twice in a decade in Kentucky.

http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2004/07/15storms/A1-summer0715-6735.html
I did a Search, which revealed 3 posts in a Spanish context, so I went ahead with this.


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google news search gives some other non-spanish hits..
http://news.google.com/news?q=derecho


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pretty fast turn-around for the wwftd!





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#130468 07/16/2004 5:33 AM
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turn-around ? Straight ahead !


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okay, I gave 'straight ahead' as the English translation of derecho; but I got this email from Dagny:

Nope, it means to the right. It also retains the same secondary sense as the
word "right" in English - a la <human rights>.

I bet I'm not the only one to email you about this! =)


well, so far she's nearly the only one, although I did get this:

Is it ok if I prefer to regard this as a Spanish word
which has quite a few definitions, but basically
meaning right-hand; or even straight, standing,
upright.


thus it seems to mean either right or straight (but not quite straigh ahead) -- anyone else?


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I beleve it's a gender issue. *ahem.*

Masculine denotes "straight ahead"; feminine (derecha) is "right."


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Masculine denotes "straight ahead"; feminine (derecha) is "right."

Well, right is also an adjective, so it can be either. So la mano derecha 'the right hand' or just nominalized as la derecha. But as a noun, yes: the feminine for the right hand and the masculine for the law. You could also have el lado derecho for the 'right side'. And besides a noun and an adjective, it's an adverb, as pointed out, meaning 'straight, direct (cognate), or upright'.

What's interesting is that Latin rectus 'straight; correct, (morally) right' was augmented with de-. And that Latin words dexter (related to Skt dakshina 'right; south'), as well as sinister 'left', lost out in Spanish. Derecha, izquierda.


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Thanks for the furthermores, jheem. I'd left them out (well, the adj bit, the rest I didn't know..) in an attempt to eschew obfuscation on behalf of those who aren't familiar with such concepts. Or either I was just too lazy, one.


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an attempt to eschew obfuscation on behalf of those who aren't familiar with such concepts.

Ta, AS. I find that when shooting at folks, if I aim over their heads, I'm less likely to hit 'em, and if I aim lower, I just might kill 'em. Another thing about straight == true, are the words tree and true (as in lumber and ideas). Related to Gk drus 'oak (tree)' and Latin druides (from Gaulish): all from *dreu- 'tree'.

See http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE87.html]


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if I aim over their heads, I'm less likely to hit 'em.. except if they stray into the crossfire between the sharpshooters


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except if they stray into the crossfire between the sharpshooters

Ah, yes, triangulation, as dangerous in lexicography as it is in wartime. Thanks.


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(Hmm--just realized I'm posting under a title that I have no idea of the meaning of...)
Anyway--how come the word triangulation is so close to strangulation? Ligature, maybe?


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how come the word triangulation is so close to strangulation?

Depends on the meaning of is, don't it?


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