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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129890 07/01/04 04:39 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,004 London, UK shanks old hand shanks old hand Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,004 London, UK So after a false start (and the need to think a bit more cleverly), I think I got it. Am I right in assuming that there is, however, only one circumstance in which the product and sum can be the same using two different sets of three numbers, hence the blue-eyed tiebreaker? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129891 07/01/04 06:19 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont still lost. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129892 07/01/04 09:26 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,772 Likes: 2 Worcester, MA W wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,772 Likes: 2 Worcester, MA As far as I can tell, shanks, that's it exactly. I'll post an explanation of the problem (as I see it) a little later on, under Answers to Puzzles. Assuming I can find it again! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129893 07/02/04 12:19 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont I got a tip via PM(thanks!!), buthow do we know the apt number? what am I missing? formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129894 07/02/04 12:30 AM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,772 Likes: 2 Worcester, MA W wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,772 Likes: 2 Worcester, MA It doesn't really matter, any more than the blueness of the eyes matters. It's just that there is still not enough information to solve the puzzle even after knowing the sum... Full answer is posted in I and A, "Answers to puzzles", located here: http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=announcements&Number=131223 at the bottom (today, anyway). But it's not whited-out or anything, so only look if you really want to know. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129895 07/02/04 12:41 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont huh formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129896 07/02/04 12:03 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 From a strictly logical point of view, even if there is a set of twins who are older than the third daughter, one of the twins will be older than the other. Not to mention that saying that one of them has blue eyes does not rule out the possibility that two, or even all three, have blue eyes. This means that even if Jet doesn't know which of the twins is older, if they both have blue eyes, then the older of them will. However, if we assume that we have enough information* then there is a unique answer. *You have a sphere. You drill a hole right through the center and measure the cylinder that the hole forms. How much volume is left in the sphere? BTW: If you'd gone threaded, you could point directly to the post and not the whole thread, thus avoiding searching for the post as it becomes far up from the bottom. http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=announcements&Number=131223 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129897 07/02/04 01:06 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont one of the twins will be older nine minutes in the case of our twins... left in the sphere is this one of them x-y=z thangs? formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129898 07/02/04 01:25 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >one of the twins will be older does anyone know of twins whose birth-dates are celebrated separately?? -ron (reject-a-nit) obvious Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Jet and the Gay Chick #129899 07/02/04 02:21 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,772 Likes: 2 Worcester, MA W wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,772 Likes: 2 Worcester, MA From a strictly logical point of view, even if there is a set of twins who are older than the third daughter, one of the twins will be older than the other. True of course, which is the reason I stipulated that the ages were reckoned in years. Indeed you don't even need to have twins to have two kids the same age; they could have been born eleven months apart... The "hole-in-the-sphere" problem is nifty (whatever that means, but generally positive). If the diameter of the hole isn't given, and the problem is presented as having a unique solution, then the diameter must be irrelevant and you can choose any convenient figure you like. Including zero. But you do need the diameter of the original sphere! The proof that the size of the hole is indeed irrelevant is left as an exercise for the reader...all you mathematicians out there listening? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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