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Why shouldn't Castillian Spanish speakers pronounce Barcelona with with a dental fricative. Afterall anglophones pronounce Paris with an /s/ at the end. Saying Barcelona with a lisp is no more pretentious than saying /pa'Ri/
Thanks, jheem. I think the thread has wandered from my original question, which included no accustions of pretentiousness. I asked because most Anglophones who lisp Barcelona likely do so believing it to be the "correct" pronunciation. All I was asking was: If "correct" is defined as "how the locals say it", is it Barthelona, or not? That was all.
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OK. Well, not everybody who is a citizen of Barcelona speaks Catalan.
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> not everybody who is a citizen of Barcelona speaks Catalan.
Undoubtedly.
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Or we can send in the mari... well, maybe not
I know an excellent mariachi band that works for *peanuts.
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They high-calibre mariachis, Keven?
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Oh, shoot! I've been way of target all thse years with what I was told in my salad days : that is that there was a King of Spain who lisped and the Court mimiced his pronunciation so that the lisped pronunciation was actuallly an affectation of the Nobles which gradually oozed into the general population who aped their "betters." An apocryphal story perhaps? But then : in England, I was also told, the name of the river Thames was pronounced Tham-es for many years until one of the early Georges called it Tems and so it remains. The oozing into the general population following the same path : King, Nobles, comman man. Any comment Cap?
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T/V??
OK, I know what it means. What do the T and the V stand for?
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I assumed tu 'thou' & vous 'you'.
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Yeah, I thought maybe. So why not Þ/Y?
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