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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127253 04/12/04 06:23 AM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq OP Carpal Tunnel OP sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui As some of you may know, I have been a loyal supporter of Arsenal Football Club for some 20 years now. Last week was a rough one for the team, but they came through well in the end. My loyalty, however, does not extend to defending ghastly coinages like this one, from an article in The Grauniad: ----------------------------------------------- Wenger then added a new word to football's lexicon. "We can do better footballistically but the spirit is there," he said. ----------------------------------------------- Sacré rouge! noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127254 04/12/04 09:56 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Spirit? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127255 04/12/04 02:26 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 508 Metro Detroit (MI) N nancyk addict nancyk addict N Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 508 Metro Detroit (MI) Oh, I don't know, Max. I think it'll replace my former(ly) favorite adverb (from my government employee husband): They contacted us telephonically... Footballistically definitely tops that. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127256 04/15/04 01:24 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Faldage! You read my mind! Or rather, I must have read yours--we both picked out the same word. I wonder why he was so puzzled over the use of spirit. And why he didn't put the Arsenal Football Club... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127257 04/15/04 09:11 PM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq OP Carpal Tunnel OP sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui > I wonder why he was so puzzled over the use of spirit. And why he didn't put the Arsenal Football Club... OK, now you'll have to 'splain. What is the big deal with "spirit" in this context? I did say that I had a problem with his coinage, and "spirit" didn't seem to be one. As to the Arsenal FC, that's not its name. It's name is simply Arsenal FC. For about three years in the late 1920s it was known as "The Arsenal", but the then manager, Herbert Chapman, changed its legally incorporated name to try and ensure that it always came first in any alphabetical listing of English football clubs. noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127258 04/15/04 11:36 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 What is the big deal with "spirit" in this context? Ya been whooshed, mate. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127259 04/16/04 12:33 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Well, its name might be "simply Arsenal FC", but it is still the Arsenal FC. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127260 04/16/04 01:37 AM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq OP Carpal Tunnel OP sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui >whooshed. I figgered that was the case. I'm used to being a whooshee, but was surprised by your fellow-whooshrix. all I can say is tgif (here, at any rate). noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127261 04/16/04 07:04 AM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK D dxb Pooh-Bah dxb Pooh-Bah D Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK I'm not really too interested in football but I am amazed that Wenger should have chosen a first name to match his club. Or was it the other way around? It is not customary over here to use 'the' before the name of a football club. We would never say: "The Bolton Wanderers have for once survived the season without entering the relegation zone". Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Arsène shoots himself in the foot? #127262 04/16/04 01:11 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky surprised by your fellow-whooshrix Heh, heh! I try to space things like that ju-u-ust far enough apart that people forget I do it! It works on my husband, anyway: for his last birthday I gave him several "coupons" (that I'd created, straight from phone-book ads) for various sessions that a metrosexual would love, knowing that he is not the type. He thought they were real! The efforts he made to be a grateful recipient were quite comical. I got to thinking about the use of "the" for teams in the U.S. As far as I can tell, we leave it off when mentioning only the team's location; as in, we'd say, "The Brooklyn Dodgers are playing today", but "Brooklyn did well in last week's game". 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