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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread ipse dixit #127086 04/07/2004 2:45 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 The term ipse dixit is the Latin equivalent of the Greek autos epha, referring to Pythagoras, as in, The master (Pythagoras) said it so it must be true and no proof is needed. In our modern world, this has many forms: Child: Why do I have to go to bed at eight every day? Parent: Because I said so. Employee: Why do we have to do this project if it's going to be scrapped anyway? Boss: Because I said so. An appeal to authority also known as argument from authority, argumentum ad verecundiam (Latin: argument from modesty) or ipse dixit (Latin: he himself, said it), is one method of obtaining propositional knowledge. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ipse dixit #127087 04/07/2004 6:19 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York What's the difference in the usage of ipse dixit and quod erat demonstratum? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ipse dixit #127088 04/07/2004 6:27 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Ipse dixit would be said after a successful Proof by Blatant Assertion, quod erat demonstrandum after a real proof. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ipse dixit #127089 04/07/2004 8:20 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Yup. "Because he says so" ain't QUITE "this is proven". Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ipse dixit #127090 04/08/2004 5:27 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Actually quod erat demonstrandum doesn't mean 'this is proven', it means 'which was to be proved", i.e., this is what we had to prove. It implies 'and now we have proved it' but it doesn't mean that. Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ipse dixit #127091 04/08/2004 10:48 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 315 Italy - Perugia is a town with... emanuela enthusiast emanuela enthusiast Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 315 Italy - Perugia is a town with... indeed, quod erat demonstrandum is usually said/written immediately after the last sentence in a proof, in which we have finished to prove what we had to prove Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ipse dixit #127092 04/08/2004 9:12 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok I know, I know. But the "truth" didn't fit what I wanted to say exactly, so I newsmediaed it. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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